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<blockquote data-quote="uncle money bags" data-source="post: 2388485" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>I had decided to run the event unmagnified after spending some time shooting similar sized targets at similar distances and being satisfied that i would be able to make hits. in retrospect, a variable magnification would have been better, either with a flip to the side magnifier or replacing my long gone and loved ELCAN Specter.</p><p>I started the run with 90 rounds of rifle ammo and 51 rounds of pistol. Total weight of equipment and runner was between 250 and 260 pounds. </p><p>I particularly appreciated the the road portion of the course. It gave me time to get warmed up without being too difficult to navigate. By the time I reached the first stage everything was loose, warm and ready to go</p><p></p><p><u>Stage 1</u> was engaging a steel 8 inch torso at 100 yards through a VTAC wall. We used 7 of the available firing ports which forced you into unusual firing positions. knowing your trajectories is a must at this stage. I don't remember my round count but my time was 59 seconds. Slower than I am used to because of several frustrating misses. By now I was developing a hot spot on the back and side of my left heel. I had foregone getting new insoles and now I was going to pay for it. Between 1 and 2 I did get temporarily lost and had to back track and look for the flag, Al pointed it out to me on the gate as he sailed right on by.</p><p></p><p><u>Stage 2 </u>involved a shoot on the move pistol engagement into a close distance over sized torso then from behind a tree to a steel plate at about 7 yards from both the right and left side. My instruction at this stage from the RO did not include switching the firing hand between the left and right side of the tree so I shot with my strong side only. After the requisite three hits from each side we picked up our grounded rifle, loaded a magazine and engaged 5 steel plates at various distances through the trees, needing 2 hits per plate. While you were limited to a specific area to shoot from, you had to move a few feet to each side to see the plates and engage. Another RO error at this stage was my not being told a a mag change with the rifle was mandatory, as such I did not perform one. My time was 1 minute flat. Considering my not switching firing hand with the pistol and mag change with the rifle I request a zero for this stage. </p><p></p><p><u>Stage three</u> was my baby. But first, I would like to thank the planners of the paths between the stages. Up to this point it had been easier than I had anticipated. Thankfully, they found a nice, rocky creek bed and embankment for us to negotiate. I got to stage three, took a minute breather and got into position. Unfortunately, Butch is half blind by his own admission, so I was not going to be able to receive any correction or splash information. All we would have to go on is the strobe. I decided that i would start firing where i thought my rounds should go and make small corrections until I got a flash and then unload what ever I could at that spot until I had my hits. I don't remember how many times it took to get the first flash, but I know it took almost 40 rounds to get the third hit, right at the 4 minute hack.</p><p>get up and move out down the road the way we came to the first three stages until you reached the sign indicating stage 4. by now the sun was just above the horizon and on its way down.</p><p></p><p><u>Stage 4</u> involved being handed a clip with 5 rounds of 7.62x54 ammo for the Mosin positioned at the far end of a barbed wire pit about 5 yards away. The goal was to negotiate the pit, load the rifle and engage a steel target 200 yards away. I had never shot a Mosin to this point, much less loaded one with a stripper clip. I got a quick instructional the day before from Nate, sans gun or ammo, so i figured it wasn't that big of a deal. At the start command I dropped my rifle and crawled up to the Mosin, loaded it clumsily and put a round into the chamber. As i took aim at the target I realized that it was much harder to see than I thought it would be and I had to drop the front sight away and reacquire the target, then move back into getting a sight picture twice before I was somewhat satisfied. In truth, it was just a best guess. I could just barely make out the target when I squeezed off the shot. Hit. I guess in my zeal I forgot that I only need that one hit, so I worked the bolt and prepared for another shot. The RO was quick to step in and stop me. I think my time was either 28 or 48 seconds, I dont remember for certain, most of it spent loading and sighting in.</p><p></p><p><u>Stage 5</u>. This was the most confusing stage of the course. In my opinion it was in the sequence of stages at exactly the right place. The shooter was going to be tired mentally and physicaly at this point so it would be easy to make mistakes even though the distances were no farther than 50 yards or so. It was going to require shooting from the high ground with limited rifle ammo, transitioning to a pistol and shooting a different target, then holstering and moving down the bank to engage three other pistol targets. If you missed any shots at the rifle portion you were required to get the balance of those 3 hits with the pistol on the rifle plate. On the fire command I loaded the rifle and dropped into the barrel. And got 2 hits. I then grounded the rifle and stood to engage the first pistol target. More frustration as I had to go high ready and then reacquire a sight picture twice before I was successful and could holster the gun, slide, jump and shuffle down the embankment to the next port. Several rounds later it was time to make up the missed rifle shot. Immediately I brought the pistol in to a sul position and moved out across the muddy remnants of the pond to get closer to the rifle plate. I retrospect I should have stayed where I was, I had plenty of pistol ammo left and the distance was not too far. I finished off the stage and was rewarded with the second most frustrating time of the day. 2:08.</p><p></p><p><u>Stage 6.</u> By this time the sun was below the horizon and I knew the next stage was likely to be impossible for me. Never the less, I grabbed my ammo can and hoofed it up the burial mound to the firing platform. The targets were 12 inch silhouettes at about 100, 200 and 300 yards. You were required to get three hits each to complete the stage. It was now I realized this was not going to happen. Even though I had helped Al set the plates up earlier in the day the only one I could absolutely see was the 100 yard plate. I could make out where the 300 plate was, but through the Aimpoint it washed away with the surroundings, and the 200 was completely hidden by the lack of light. In my opinion the 100 yard target was safe to shoot and 300 yard target was marginal while the 200 target was a no shoot since I could not see it. The RO gave me the go ahead to fire so I loaded and dropped to the deck and shot the 100 and got my three hits. I then moved to the 300 target and switched back and forth between naked eye and through the RDS and attempted to engage. It was a no go. I finished off my remaining rounds trying to get hits on that 300 without success. At the completion of the time allotted the RO offered to give me a ride back to base and I declined, and requested the direction I needed to go to finish the run. I arrived back at the start line in 2 hours and 26 minutes at 1811. I had a wait time at stage 2 of 7 minutes which gave me a net of 2:19 for the course. In comparison, my time at the summer run n gun was within 10 minutes of this one, and the course here was over twice the length, albeit less brutal.</p><p></p><p>After action comments.</p><p></p><p>Sustain.</p><p>-Physical training, and add rucking with weight over varying elevations.</p><p>-shooting under pressure, while in diminished physical and mental states, with the gear you plan to fight in.</p><p></p><p>Improve.</p><p>-Low light target aquisition and engagement for pistol and rifle, including employing low to no light devices such as a PVS-14, either rifle mounted with the Aimpoint, or head mounted in conjunction with an ir laser.</p><p>-Blister prevention, replace the insoles of your boots before they need them.</p><p>-evaluate and decide on a rifle mounted magnification system for PID in good light situations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="uncle money bags, post: 2388485, member: 8377"] I had decided to run the event unmagnified after spending some time shooting similar sized targets at similar distances and being satisfied that i would be able to make hits. in retrospect, a variable magnification would have been better, either with a flip to the side magnifier or replacing my long gone and loved ELCAN Specter. I started the run with 90 rounds of rifle ammo and 51 rounds of pistol. Total weight of equipment and runner was between 250 and 260 pounds. I particularly appreciated the the road portion of the course. It gave me time to get warmed up without being too difficult to navigate. By the time I reached the first stage everything was loose, warm and ready to go [U]Stage 1[/U] was engaging a steel 8 inch torso at 100 yards through a VTAC wall. We used 7 of the available firing ports which forced you into unusual firing positions. knowing your trajectories is a must at this stage. I don't remember my round count but my time was 59 seconds. Slower than I am used to because of several frustrating misses. By now I was developing a hot spot on the back and side of my left heel. I had foregone getting new insoles and now I was going to pay for it. Between 1 and 2 I did get temporarily lost and had to back track and look for the flag, Al pointed it out to me on the gate as he sailed right on by. [U]Stage 2 [/U]involved a shoot on the move pistol engagement into a close distance over sized torso then from behind a tree to a steel plate at about 7 yards from both the right and left side. My instruction at this stage from the RO did not include switching the firing hand between the left and right side of the tree so I shot with my strong side only. After the requisite three hits from each side we picked up our grounded rifle, loaded a magazine and engaged 5 steel plates at various distances through the trees, needing 2 hits per plate. While you were limited to a specific area to shoot from, you had to move a few feet to each side to see the plates and engage. Another RO error at this stage was my not being told a a mag change with the rifle was mandatory, as such I did not perform one. My time was 1 minute flat. Considering my not switching firing hand with the pistol and mag change with the rifle I request a zero for this stage. [U]Stage three[/U] was my baby. But first, I would like to thank the planners of the paths between the stages. Up to this point it had been easier than I had anticipated. Thankfully, they found a nice, rocky creek bed and embankment for us to negotiate. I got to stage three, took a minute breather and got into position. Unfortunately, Butch is half blind by his own admission, so I was not going to be able to receive any correction or splash information. All we would have to go on is the strobe. I decided that i would start firing where i thought my rounds should go and make small corrections until I got a flash and then unload what ever I could at that spot until I had my hits. I don't remember how many times it took to get the first flash, but I know it took almost 40 rounds to get the third hit, right at the 4 minute hack. get up and move out down the road the way we came to the first three stages until you reached the sign indicating stage 4. by now the sun was just above the horizon and on its way down. [U]Stage 4[/U] involved being handed a clip with 5 rounds of 7.62x54 ammo for the Mosin positioned at the far end of a barbed wire pit about 5 yards away. The goal was to negotiate the pit, load the rifle and engage a steel target 200 yards away. I had never shot a Mosin to this point, much less loaded one with a stripper clip. I got a quick instructional the day before from Nate, sans gun or ammo, so i figured it wasn't that big of a deal. At the start command I dropped my rifle and crawled up to the Mosin, loaded it clumsily and put a round into the chamber. As i took aim at the target I realized that it was much harder to see than I thought it would be and I had to drop the front sight away and reacquire the target, then move back into getting a sight picture twice before I was somewhat satisfied. In truth, it was just a best guess. I could just barely make out the target when I squeezed off the shot. Hit. I guess in my zeal I forgot that I only need that one hit, so I worked the bolt and prepared for another shot. The RO was quick to step in and stop me. I think my time was either 28 or 48 seconds, I dont remember for certain, most of it spent loading and sighting in. [U]Stage 5[/U]. This was the most confusing stage of the course. In my opinion it was in the sequence of stages at exactly the right place. The shooter was going to be tired mentally and physicaly at this point so it would be easy to make mistakes even though the distances were no farther than 50 yards or so. It was going to require shooting from the high ground with limited rifle ammo, transitioning to a pistol and shooting a different target, then holstering and moving down the bank to engage three other pistol targets. If you missed any shots at the rifle portion you were required to get the balance of those 3 hits with the pistol on the rifle plate. On the fire command I loaded the rifle and dropped into the barrel. And got 2 hits. I then grounded the rifle and stood to engage the first pistol target. More frustration as I had to go high ready and then reacquire a sight picture twice before I was successful and could holster the gun, slide, jump and shuffle down the embankment to the next port. Several rounds later it was time to make up the missed rifle shot. Immediately I brought the pistol in to a sul position and moved out across the muddy remnants of the pond to get closer to the rifle plate. I retrospect I should have stayed where I was, I had plenty of pistol ammo left and the distance was not too far. I finished off the stage and was rewarded with the second most frustrating time of the day. 2:08. [U]Stage 6.[/U] By this time the sun was below the horizon and I knew the next stage was likely to be impossible for me. Never the less, I grabbed my ammo can and hoofed it up the burial mound to the firing platform. The targets were 12 inch silhouettes at about 100, 200 and 300 yards. You were required to get three hits each to complete the stage. It was now I realized this was not going to happen. Even though I had helped Al set the plates up earlier in the day the only one I could absolutely see was the 100 yard plate. I could make out where the 300 plate was, but through the Aimpoint it washed away with the surroundings, and the 200 was completely hidden by the lack of light. In my opinion the 100 yard target was safe to shoot and 300 yard target was marginal while the 200 target was a no shoot since I could not see it. The RO gave me the go ahead to fire so I loaded and dropped to the deck and shot the 100 and got my three hits. I then moved to the 300 target and switched back and forth between naked eye and through the RDS and attempted to engage. It was a no go. I finished off my remaining rounds trying to get hits on that 300 without success. At the completion of the time allotted the RO offered to give me a ride back to base and I declined, and requested the direction I needed to go to finish the run. I arrived back at the start line in 2 hours and 26 minutes at 1811. I had a wait time at stage 2 of 7 minutes which gave me a net of 2:19 for the course. In comparison, my time at the summer run n gun was within 10 minutes of this one, and the course here was over twice the length, albeit less brutal. After action comments. Sustain. -Physical training, and add rucking with weight over varying elevations. -shooting under pressure, while in diminished physical and mental states, with the gear you plan to fight in. Improve. -Low light target aquisition and engagement for pistol and rifle, including employing low to no light devices such as a PVS-14, either rifle mounted with the Aimpoint, or head mounted in conjunction with an ir laser. -Blister prevention, replace the insoles of your boots before they need them. -evaluate and decide on a rifle mounted magnification system for PID in good light situations. [/QUOTE]
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