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<blockquote data-quote="dutchwrangler" data-source="post: 1511516" data-attributes="member: 4650"><p>Part of the problem is that our society as a whole has been convinced that the 2A is obsolete. That we have a standing military force to replace the militia and that the common man thus has no need for arms.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The words above in bold are rarely discussed these days. The founders wrote extensively that they were against having a standing military with the sole exception of a navy, which by virtue of it's design, would be hard pressed in that era to move inland where the people abided and thus less of a threat than a standing army. The founders viewed the militia as the body of people holding their privately owned arms. The militia was to be regulated... made regular and uniform for cohesiveness... and seperate from government until such a time they might be needed for defensive purposes.</p><p></p><p>As our society has become less inclined to own firearms, so has the desire of the people to maintain their role in the militia system. As a result, we now have a standing military and "select militias" (state run military forces) which our founders feared. And which we know would be called upon to suppress any of us who exercised our right to carry as affirmed by the 2A.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of folks who shouldn't carry a firearm until properly trained. Because we no longer use the militia system (it's demonized by the media, politicians and ignorant citizens), the proper training of arms is becoming a lost skill for the vast majority of citizens. I view my involvement in the shooting sports as a means of increasing my skills and in a round about way this is in a sense a means of militia training.</p><p></p><p>Anytime we allow the state to mandate training of arms then we give up a part of our right to carry arms. Eventually, politicians being the scum they are, they'll usurp all the gun rights we have in order to achieve their goal of power and control of the people. And then move onto the other unalienable rights.</p><p></p><p>Training in the use of arms is a common sense idea. However, I don't believe for a minute it is the place of government to provide that training. It's up the fathers, brothers, husbands, sister, daughters and mothers who already know how to handle firearms safely to pass this knowledge onto the next generation. Keep government out of the equation entirely so that no free citizen has to bow to government nor ask for government's blessing. It's been done with public education with piss poor results which we are payinf for today and for generations to come.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dutchwrangler, post: 1511516, member: 4650"] Part of the problem is that our society as a whole has been convinced that the 2A is obsolete. That we have a standing military force to replace the militia and that the common man thus has no need for arms. The words above in bold are rarely discussed these days. The founders wrote extensively that they were against having a standing military with the sole exception of a navy, which by virtue of it's design, would be hard pressed in that era to move inland where the people abided and thus less of a threat than a standing army. The founders viewed the militia as the body of people holding their privately owned arms. The militia was to be regulated... made regular and uniform for cohesiveness... and seperate from government until such a time they might be needed for defensive purposes. As our society has become less inclined to own firearms, so has the desire of the people to maintain their role in the militia system. As a result, we now have a standing military and "select militias" (state run military forces) which our founders feared. And which we know would be called upon to suppress any of us who exercised our right to carry as affirmed by the 2A. There are plenty of folks who shouldn't carry a firearm until properly trained. Because we no longer use the militia system (it's demonized by the media, politicians and ignorant citizens), the proper training of arms is becoming a lost skill for the vast majority of citizens. I view my involvement in the shooting sports as a means of increasing my skills and in a round about way this is in a sense a means of militia training. Anytime we allow the state to mandate training of arms then we give up a part of our right to carry arms. Eventually, politicians being the scum they are, they'll usurp all the gun rights we have in order to achieve their goal of power and control of the people. And then move onto the other unalienable rights. Training in the use of arms is a common sense idea. However, I don't believe for a minute it is the place of government to provide that training. It's up the fathers, brothers, husbands, sister, daughters and mothers who already know how to handle firearms safely to pass this knowledge onto the next generation. Keep government out of the equation entirely so that no free citizen has to bow to government nor ask for government's blessing. It's been done with public education with piss poor results which we are payinf for today and for generations to come. [/QUOTE]
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