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<blockquote data-quote="AllOut" data-source="post: 1676085" data-attributes="member: 12099"><p>How good we have it... That's just it, it's OK at best. But we have the potential to be very good if not great. Ya we have good bucks killed every year, but how many? A few? Do you know anyone in Oklahoma who hunts in Oklahoma who holds out for a 160" minimum? I hunt in kansas almost every year and know a lot of guys from there. Pretty much everyone holds out for big bucks and I'm not talking about Oklahoma big bucks. Most those guy kill one every year. </p><p>The funny part is, we share a boarder with them, our state is a lot like theirs as far as deer habitat. But our deer herd isn't half as good as theirs.</p><p>Why?</p><p></p><p>Why do you guys keep bringing up the small percentage stuff? That 1% deer! Ya he might have been a new world record for one person. What about the other 99%? So they don't become world records but they are major trophies for a lot more people. With no restrictions like we have now our 1.5 bucks are already getting slaughtered, they are the vast majority of our buck harvest. So how could it get worse?</p><p>As of right now we have, big numbers, messed up sex ratio and a horrible age structure. That doesn't sound like "having it good" does it? Unless u just like seeing deer. The reason states like Iowa, Illinois, Ohio and Kansas don't need ARs is cause they already have good deer hunting. In those states No one in their right mind would shoot a small young buck especially in a one buck limit like kansas cause the odds of killing a good mature buck is pretty good and your not waisting a tag. Those states also have strict Non resident hunting for the most part, Kansas is draw in only and expensive, Iowa is draw only and u can only draw a buck tag every 3 years. The other thing most those states have in common is that rifle isn't in the rut. Or they don't have a rifle season at all! Is that what u want?</p><p></p><p>I sound like I'm pushing for trophy management, but I'm actually against TDM. I just want to see and healthy herd with proper age and sex ratios. With that will come better bucks so it's a win win for everybody. Like I said earlier I'm not totally for ARs but in order to get what this state needs we will all have to sacrifice some how. So if we must sacrifice what are we willing to give up? AR? No Guns in Rut? No rifle period? One buck limit? Earn a buck? Drastic non resident changes, high priced tags, draw only, limited tags?</p><p></p><p>Most of you guys would linch me if I got to set the regs up the way I would like to see them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AllOut, post: 1676085, member: 12099"] How good we have it... That's just it, it's OK at best. But we have the potential to be very good if not great. Ya we have good bucks killed every year, but how many? A few? Do you know anyone in Oklahoma who hunts in Oklahoma who holds out for a 160" minimum? I hunt in kansas almost every year and know a lot of guys from there. Pretty much everyone holds out for big bucks and I'm not talking about Oklahoma big bucks. Most those guy kill one every year. The funny part is, we share a boarder with them, our state is a lot like theirs as far as deer habitat. But our deer herd isn't half as good as theirs. Why? Why do you guys keep bringing up the small percentage stuff? That 1% deer! Ya he might have been a new world record for one person. What about the other 99%? So they don't become world records but they are major trophies for a lot more people. With no restrictions like we have now our 1.5 bucks are already getting slaughtered, they are the vast majority of our buck harvest. So how could it get worse? As of right now we have, big numbers, messed up sex ratio and a horrible age structure. That doesn't sound like "having it good" does it? Unless u just like seeing deer. The reason states like Iowa, Illinois, Ohio and Kansas don't need ARs is cause they already have good deer hunting. In those states No one in their right mind would shoot a small young buck especially in a one buck limit like kansas cause the odds of killing a good mature buck is pretty good and your not waisting a tag. Those states also have strict Non resident hunting for the most part, Kansas is draw in only and expensive, Iowa is draw only and u can only draw a buck tag every 3 years. The other thing most those states have in common is that rifle isn't in the rut. Or they don't have a rifle season at all! Is that what u want? I sound like I'm pushing for trophy management, but I'm actually against TDM. I just want to see and healthy herd with proper age and sex ratios. With that will come better bucks so it's a win win for everybody. Like I said earlier I'm not totally for ARs but in order to get what this state needs we will all have to sacrifice some how. So if we must sacrifice what are we willing to give up? AR? No Guns in Rut? No rifle period? One buck limit? Earn a buck? Drastic non resident changes, high priced tags, draw only, limited tags? Most of you guys would linch me if I got to set the regs up the way I would like to see them. [/QUOTE]
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