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<blockquote data-quote="JB Books" data-source="post: 2698803" data-attributes="member: 6889"><p>dlmcm:</p><p></p><p>I understand what you are saying, but I submit there is a distinct difference in Christian hypocrites (especially ministers) and hypocrites in other professions.</p><p></p><p>First, ministers, in particular, are held to a higher standard. How can a minister expect to preach, teach, and shepherd a flock if their own house is not in order. Is there not a Bible verse that says something to the effect of "get the beam out your own eye before you try to help your neighbor remove the splinter from his?" Certainly, all men are subject to folly and sin. No one is perfect, but if you are going to try to tell people how to live, shouldn't you, yourself, follow your own teachings? So, in my opinion, it is quite different than hypocrites in other professions.</p><p></p><p>Second, many of these guys are simply self-absorbed snake oil salesmen. They take people, many of whom are in very transitional, emotionally fragile points in their lives, and tell them that "they are chosen" and their problems are "the Devil's fault," and then offer solutions designed to line their own pockets. I'm not talking about getting money to support the ministry, building funds, or even missions trips. </p><p></p><p>Third, these ministers have a tendency to use people and then discard them when they are no longer needed. Some of them do this in their personal life as well as their church life. I had a young man as a client who had been part of a mega church's team. He was worked and treated like a dog. It left some serious emotional scars on him.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, many of these guys engage in the cult of personality. The arrogance and entitlement are so thick, you can cut them with a knife. Why is the focus on them and their showmanship rather than Christ's message? Why do their members fall all over themselves to get close to the minister and his family? A true servant of God would shun such a situation. </p><p></p><p>Finally, how can these guys take so much money to live lavish lifestyles? Money from people, many of whom are barely making it. Still, that's not enough, they demand more, and spiritually browbeat their congregation with self-interested, heretical BS such as the prosperity teachings.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, to be clear, I very much respect those ministers and individuals who struggle every day to live and walk a Christ like path. I particularly respect those who do so with a humble heart, seeking only to glorify Christ's Kingdom and not their own ambition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JB Books, post: 2698803, member: 6889"] dlmcm: I understand what you are saying, but I submit there is a distinct difference in Christian hypocrites (especially ministers) and hypocrites in other professions. First, ministers, in particular, are held to a higher standard. How can a minister expect to preach, teach, and shepherd a flock if their own house is not in order. Is there not a Bible verse that says something to the effect of "get the beam out your own eye before you try to help your neighbor remove the splinter from his?" Certainly, all men are subject to folly and sin. No one is perfect, but if you are going to try to tell people how to live, shouldn't you, yourself, follow your own teachings? So, in my opinion, it is quite different than hypocrites in other professions. Second, many of these guys are simply self-absorbed snake oil salesmen. They take people, many of whom are in very transitional, emotionally fragile points in their lives, and tell them that "they are chosen" and their problems are "the Devil's fault," and then offer solutions designed to line their own pockets. I'm not talking about getting money to support the ministry, building funds, or even missions trips. Third, these ministers have a tendency to use people and then discard them when they are no longer needed. Some of them do this in their personal life as well as their church life. I had a young man as a client who had been part of a mega church's team. He was worked and treated like a dog. It left some serious emotional scars on him. Fourth, many of these guys engage in the cult of personality. The arrogance and entitlement are so thick, you can cut them with a knife. Why is the focus on them and their showmanship rather than Christ's message? Why do their members fall all over themselves to get close to the minister and his family? A true servant of God would shun such a situation. Finally, how can these guys take so much money to live lavish lifestyles? Money from people, many of whom are barely making it. Still, that's not enough, they demand more, and spiritually browbeat their congregation with self-interested, heretical BS such as the prosperity teachings. Anyway, to be clear, I very much respect those ministers and individuals who struggle every day to live and walk a Christ like path. I particularly respect those who do so with a humble heart, seeking only to glorify Christ's Kingdom and not their own ambition. [/QUOTE]
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