I don't know what you're using to fill them but I'm staying with the promix general purpose. If you know anyone that has an account with BWI that is where mine comes from. You can look on their website but you will not see the prices. They are supplier for businesses.The ones I bought at the time did not have a drain installed. I had to drill and install one but was gonna purchase a couple more. That looks like a simpler solution. Thanks.