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<blockquote data-quote="NikatKimber" data-source="post: 1504350" data-attributes="member: 423"><p>As a "Hobby Shooter" and home owner, if I was using an AR for home defense; reliability would mean can I run a mag dump, reload, mag dump consistently? Unless we're talking government zombie takeover apocolypse scenario, needing more than 60 rounds of .223 is beyond a stretch... more like the chance of me winning the mega millions lotto without buying a ticket. I mean, I don't have warlord enemies, or any nemesis gangs panting to break down my door.</p><p></p><p>Even if you're a LEO, how much ammo do you carry with you? 200rds? 300rds? That's how much you need to know your rifle can do without needing maintenance. </p><p></p><p>What does it take to prove your rifle can reliably do that? That's the question. </p><p></p><p>But get a grip, the average shooter doesn't need the ability to go 2000+ rounds without maintenance (not saying that isn't a good way to prove the capability of their rifle to do what they DO need)!</p><p></p><p>Personally I would say that the average shooter would see more benefit of the same round count by shooting 200rds per session 10x a year, with cleaning and inspection between; than 1 2k round count class once a year (excluding the skills taught in the class).</p><p></p><p>That's like requiring a car be driven 100k miles nonstop to be declared reliable when the user's commute is 20 miles round trip.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NikatKimber, post: 1504350, member: 423"] As a "Hobby Shooter" and home owner, if I was using an AR for home defense; reliability would mean can I run a mag dump, reload, mag dump consistently? Unless we're talking government zombie takeover apocolypse scenario, needing more than 60 rounds of .223 is beyond a stretch... more like the chance of me winning the mega millions lotto without buying a ticket. I mean, I don't have warlord enemies, or any nemesis gangs panting to break down my door. Even if you're a LEO, how much ammo do you carry with you? 200rds? 300rds? That's how much you need to know your rifle can do without needing maintenance. What does it take to prove your rifle can reliably do that? That's the question. But get a grip, the average shooter doesn't need the ability to go 2000+ rounds without maintenance (not saying that isn't a good way to prove the capability of their rifle to do what they DO need)! Personally I would say that the average shooter would see more benefit of the same round count by shooting 200rds per session 10x a year, with cleaning and inspection between; than 1 2k round count class once a year (excluding the skills taught in the class). That's like requiring a car be driven 100k miles nonstop to be declared reliable when the user's commute is 20 miles round trip. [/QUOTE]
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