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<blockquote data-quote="soonerwings" data-source="post: 1619016" data-attributes="member: 8035">Not once did I say that the states must be subservient to the central government.&nbsp; What I said was that the central government was intentionally given more power under the constitution than under the articles.&nbsp; You say that the general welfare clause is contained in the other enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8 while I say that to provide for the general welfare of the United States IS an enumerated power.On this we agree.&nbsp; The Constitution provides for congress to spend for the general welfare, but NOT to spend in order to benefit one person or group more than another.&nbsp; Again, see the definition of &quot;public good&quot;.I&#039;ll take this as a compliment.&nbsp; You&#039;ve spent a great many words debating me.I&#039;m afraid this day is much closer than most people think.&nbsp; Still, I REFUSE to give up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soonerwings, post: 1619016, member: 8035"] Not once did I say that the states must be subservient to the central government. What I said was that the central government was intentionally given more power under the constitution than under the articles. You say that the general welfare clause is contained in the other enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8 while I say that to provide for the general welfare of the United States IS an enumerated power. On this we agree. The Constitution provides for congress to spend for the general welfare, but NOT to spend in order to benefit one person or group more than another. Again, see the definition of "public good". I'll take this as a compliment. You've spent a great many words debating me. I'm afraid this day is much closer than most people think. Still, I REFUSE to give up. [/QUOTE]

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