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<blockquote data-quote="rockchalk06" data-source="post: 3882026" data-attributes="member: 40794">Once you&#039;ve eliminated all the variables mount/rings VC3&#039;d and proper torque, I&#039;d focus on ammo.My HMR 6.5 Creed wouldn&#039;t print below a 2&quot; group even with Lapua 3 dollar a round stuff. Once fired full length sized brass, 140 grain SMK, (forgot the charge) H4350 with little bit longer OAL first loads all printed sub MOA. Long story short, my rifle sucked with all 5 different factory loads. She prints .333&quot; 5 shot groups with my loads now. My rifles issue ended up being it loved a shorter jump to the lands. Factory OAL was just too much of a jump to the lands to get the accuracy it wantedI don&#039;t know anything about your optic, but unless it&#039;s a 40 dollar Amazon Special or a sample of 1 with a defect, any half decent optic properly mounted and torque will hold zero with 6.5 Gren recoil.Lastly, find out the proper torque for your stock bolts. Too much or too little will make your brain spin chasing groups if it&#039;s off.Good luck</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rockchalk06, post: 3882026, member: 40794"] Once you've eliminated all the variables mount/rings VC3'd and proper torque, I'd focus on ammo. My HMR 6.5 Creed wouldn't print below a 2" group even with Lapua 3 dollar a round stuff. Once fired full length sized brass, 140 grain SMK, (forgot the charge) H4350 with little bit longer OAL first loads all printed sub MOA. Long story short, my rifle sucked with all 5 different factory loads. She prints .333" 5 shot groups with my loads now. My rifles issue ended up being it loved a shorter jump to the lands. Factory OAL was just too much of a jump to the lands to get the accuracy it wanted I don't know anything about your optic, but unless it's a 40 dollar Amazon Special or a sample of 1 with a defect, any half decent optic properly mounted and torque will hold zero with 6.5 Gren recoil. Lastly, find out the proper torque for your stock bolts. Too much or too little will make your brain spin chasing groups if it's off. Good luck [/QUOTE]

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