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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1829396" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>Sure he said that. He's running on the Republican ticket and needs the votes of Republicans that don't need to hear anything else but "I'd repeal something OSAMABAMA did!".</p><p></p><p>The state's rights thing Republicans are abusing is going to bite them in the ass one day. They're misapplying it to their own peril IMO. It's usually used as nothing but an excuse for actions incongruous with the ideals of their voter base, or used as an excuse for inaction on a federal level. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what I wonder about - the income cutoff. I know the IRS has a different definition of middle-class than I do, so I don't really foresee them being too lenient here. The way I see it is some (working class) people will be paying a penalty and not be eligible for/receive any benefits from it. I see your point about many social programs placing the burden on those who are not the recipients of the benefits, but I see this as decidedly different than most other social programs in that it isn't deigned with one very specific group in mind. E.G. old people, disabled people, poor mothers, etc.</p><p></p><p>I don't see the mandate portion of this law benefiting the working class, blue-collar Joe in any tangible way. And I actually see it hurting him. And like Iggy laid out with the Heritage Foundation brainstorming in the 80's - that's a Republican idea if I ever heard one. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1829396, member: 4319"] Sure he said that. He's running on the Republican ticket and needs the votes of Republicans that don't need to hear anything else but "I'd repeal something OSAMABAMA did!". The state's rights thing Republicans are abusing is going to bite them in the ass one day. They're misapplying it to their own peril IMO. It's usually used as nothing but an excuse for actions incongruous with the ideals of their voter base, or used as an excuse for inaction on a federal level. That's what I wonder about - the income cutoff. I know the IRS has a different definition of middle-class than I do, so I don't really foresee them being too lenient here. The way I see it is some (working class) people will be paying a penalty and not be eligible for/receive any benefits from it. I see your point about many social programs placing the burden on those who are not the recipients of the benefits, but I see this as decidedly different than most other social programs in that it isn't deigned with one very specific group in mind. E.G. old people, disabled people, poor mothers, etc. I don't see the mandate portion of this law benefiting the working class, blue-collar Joe in any tangible way. And I actually see it hurting him. And like Iggy laid out with the Heritage Foundation brainstorming in the 80's - that's a Republican idea if I ever heard one. :D [/QUOTE]
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