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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1830902" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>No, it's not happening. And again it goes back to "socialism" becoming this ridiculous buzzword since '08 and how it literally means nothing now. You could argue that America functioned fine economically under more "socialist" administrations than Obama, and it could even be argued such policies actually helped the economy.</p><p></p><p>Look, I'm not telling anyone what to believe politically. I'm not saying you should like anything the Obama administration does. But all this <em>"Gotdamn boys, get the rifles, them damn socialists done took over thuh republic." </em>is asinine. And it's not hyperbole - people actually think this lame-ass healthcare bill going to spell the end of America. And all this shock about "how liberal" Obama is makes me laugh because Obama is considerably to the right of FDR, Teddy Rossevelt, Ike, Johnson, etc. It's an objective fact that Obama and the Democratic party are <em><strong>effectively</strong></em> further to the right than they were in the majority of the 20th century. Obama is FAR from the most liberal/progressive president in modern America. </p><p></p><p>And what's the GOP solution to this supposed Armageddon? Vote for Romney, the guy who had his hands all over this plan and is on record supporting the individual mandate. HIS individual mandate. </p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]zvqfsIVu_3I[/media]</p><p></p><p>I don't fault the GOP base for its political beliefs; I fault them for either being to ignorant to know or too dishonest to admit the Democratic party and Obama are not the most liberal thing to ever hit America, and I fault them for bashing Obama's mandate and then telling us our only hope is to vote for Mr. Bain up there - WHO DREW UP, PUSHED, AND SUPPORTED THE SAME FRIGGIN' THING.</p><p></p><p>"Socialism" is such a misapplied and essentially meaningless word. The GOP as a whole would never get behind repealing Social Security, or eliminating all public education funding - a few LOLbertarians would, but not the average GOP voter. But here the base and the people it votes for are telling me the world is ending because of this lame-ass, not-very-liberal healthcare law. We survived the rise of progressivism, the New Deal, gov't regulation of industry and finance, etc - somehow - but this will kill us. </p><p></p><p>This isn't a Democratic party turd; its roots are with the Heritage Foundation and the current GOP candidate was pimping it until he realized he needed the votes of a polarized, frothing base angry goobers to get get into the White House. Wealthy people don't have to worry about healthcare. The mandate is a penalty for the uninsured, and that's not the wealthy elite. Sure sounds like a Republican healthcare plan to me, and Mitt agrees. A liberal healthcare plan would look a lot different. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep frothing GOP; it's making you look really rational.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1830902, member: 4319"] No, it's not happening. And again it goes back to "socialism" becoming this ridiculous buzzword since '08 and how it literally means nothing now. You could argue that America functioned fine economically under more "socialist" administrations than Obama, and it could even be argued such policies actually helped the economy. Look, I'm not telling anyone what to believe politically. I'm not saying you should like anything the Obama administration does. But all this [I]"Gotdamn boys, get the rifles, them damn socialists done took over thuh republic." [/I]is asinine. And it's not hyperbole - people actually think this lame-ass healthcare bill going to spell the end of America. And all this shock about "how liberal" Obama is makes me laugh because Obama is considerably to the right of FDR, Teddy Rossevelt, Ike, Johnson, etc. It's an objective fact that Obama and the Democratic party are [I][B]effectively[/B][/I] further to the right than they were in the majority of the 20th century. Obama is FAR from the most liberal/progressive president in modern America. And what's the GOP solution to this supposed Armageddon? Vote for Romney, the guy who had his hands all over this plan and is on record supporting the individual mandate. HIS individual mandate. [media=youtube]zvqfsIVu_3I[/media] I don't fault the GOP base for its political beliefs; I fault them for either being to ignorant to know or too dishonest to admit the Democratic party and Obama are not the most liberal thing to ever hit America, and I fault them for bashing Obama's mandate and then telling us our only hope is to vote for Mr. Bain up there - WHO DREW UP, PUSHED, AND SUPPORTED THE SAME FRIGGIN' THING. "Socialism" is such a misapplied and essentially meaningless word. The GOP as a whole would never get behind repealing Social Security, or eliminating all public education funding - a few LOLbertarians would, but not the average GOP voter. But here the base and the people it votes for are telling me the world is ending because of this lame-ass, not-very-liberal healthcare law. We survived the rise of progressivism, the New Deal, gov't regulation of industry and finance, etc - somehow - but this will kill us. This isn't a Democratic party turd; its roots are with the Heritage Foundation and the current GOP candidate was pimping it until he realized he needed the votes of a polarized, frothing base angry goobers to get get into the White House. Wealthy people don't have to worry about healthcare. The mandate is a penalty for the uninsured, and that's not the wealthy elite. Sure sounds like a Republican healthcare plan to me, and Mitt agrees. A liberal healthcare plan would look a lot different. Keep frothing GOP; it's making you look really rational. [/QUOTE]
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