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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3792729" data-attributes="member: 45524">&gt;so you are saying there is no other way possiblewell since i didn&#039;t say that, no. in fact that&#039;s not what i&#039;m saying.&gt;however, until facts are discoveredand this is the crutch; at one point does an effort to prevent certain facts from being &quot;discovered&quot; does something qualify as whatever a &quot;conspiracy&quot; is?&quot;conspiracy&quot; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a false flag that the government themselves went in or even local police went in and shot children.&quot;conspiracy&quot; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a concerted effort to strip away rights, beit firearms or privacy.&quot;conspiracy&quot; just means that the people who know agree to withhold or purposefully omit certain &quot;facts&quot; to form a narrative and/or shape public opinion. this is done thru things like media manipulation, intentional lying, lies by omission, or even misreporting of things and never really caring to correct.this has already occurred. happened again in tulsa; it happens in every &#039;mass shooting&#039; it happens every day. you commit &quot;conspiracy&quot; all the time; we all do.&quot;conspiracy&quot; doesn&#039;t mean anything. it&#039;s human nature. police agencies don&#039;t report certain events. hospitals don&#039;t report certain events. commit suicide in a hospital parking lot and see if it&#039;s reported. is that a &quot;conspiracy&quot; or just media manipulation?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3792729, member: 45524"] >so you are saying there is no other way possible well since i didn't say that, no. in fact that's not what i'm saying. >however, until facts are discovered and this is the crutch; at one point does an effort to prevent certain facts from being "discovered" does something qualify as whatever a "conspiracy" is? "conspiracy" doesn't mean it's a false flag that the government themselves went in or even local police went in and shot children. "conspiracy" doesn't mean it's a concerted effort to strip away rights, beit firearms or privacy. "conspiracy" just means that the people who know agree to withhold or purposefully omit certain "facts" to form a narrative and/or shape public opinion. this is done thru things like media manipulation, intentional lying, lies by omission, or even misreporting of things and never really caring to correct. this has already occurred. happened again in tulsa; it happens in every 'mass shooting' it happens every day. you commit "conspiracy" all the time; we all do. "conspiracy" doesn't mean anything. it's human nature. police agencies don't report certain events. hospitals don't report certain events. commit suicide in a hospital parking lot and see if it's reported. is that a "conspiracy" or just media manipulation? [/QUOTE]

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