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<blockquote data-quote="TallPrairie" data-source="post: 2524061" data-attributes="member: 7815"><p>Didn't see this posted anywhere. Surprised to see it from an Oklahoma based chain.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://newsok.com/sonic-asks-customers-not-to-bring-guns-to-drive-in-patios-restaurants/article/4868851" target="_blank">http://newsok.com/sonic-asks-customers-not-to-bring-guns-to-drive-in-patios-restaurants/article/4868851</a></p><p></p><p>Thoughts:</p><p></p><p>1. Long gun open carry in urbanized areas is an incredibly poor advocacy tool.</p><p></p><p>2. A lot of these capitulating chains are issuing "policies" that are basically press releases to placate the anti-gun groups, but are not actually posting signs on their locations. This is an interesting move. Under Oklahoma law, if there's not a sign, then there is apparently no legal violation in carrying in that location. 21 O.S. 1290.22.C:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The relevant statute: <a href="http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=438588" target="_blank">http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=438588</a></p><p></p><p>Of course a property owner can always ask a customer to leave, and it could well be a trespass to decline to do so if asked.</p><p></p><p>3. There need to be economic and reputational consequences for chains that do this. Long guns are one thing, but "no guns" sweeps a lot broader than that. Given the excellent track record of concealed carry handgun license holders for safety and law-abidingness, a restaurant chain that proclaims such a policy reveals an ignorant and callous attitude toward its customers' safety. </p><p></p><p>* THIS POST IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE *</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TallPrairie, post: 2524061, member: 7815"] Didn't see this posted anywhere. Surprised to see it from an Oklahoma based chain. [url]http://newsok.com/sonic-asks-customers-not-to-bring-guns-to-drive-in-patios-restaurants/article/4868851[/url] Thoughts: 1. Long gun open carry in urbanized areas is an incredibly poor advocacy tool. 2. A lot of these capitulating chains are issuing "policies" that are basically press releases to placate the anti-gun groups, but are not actually posting signs on their locations. This is an interesting move. Under Oklahoma law, if there's not a sign, then there is apparently no legal violation in carrying in that location. 21 O.S. 1290.22.C: The relevant statute: [url]http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=438588[/url] Of course a property owner can always ask a customer to leave, and it could well be a trespass to decline to do so if asked. 3. There need to be economic and reputational consequences for chains that do this. Long guns are one thing, but "no guns" sweeps a lot broader than that. Given the excellent track record of concealed carry handgun license holders for safety and law-abidingness, a restaurant chain that proclaims such a policy reveals an ignorant and callous attitude toward its customers' safety. * THIS POST IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE * [/QUOTE]
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