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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1044545" data-attributes="member: 7123">No kiddin?&nbsp; Weird because I&#039;ve shot pigeons, starlings, and grackles at ranges out to 12 yards with both .177 air rifle (7-10 grain pellets at around 800 fps all the way up to 1200 fps), and with Aguila Super Colibris (20 grains @ 500 fps), and both penetrate clean through and both kill them deader than a doornail.&nbsp; You must have run up against some SBA-clad pigeons!&nbsp; <img src="/images/smilies/eek.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="EEK!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" />&nbsp; Either that or &quot;point blank range&quot; means to you something different from what I thought it meant to you.&nbsp; Or maybe you hit a main bone in the wing on the way in (??).Now, the super colibris do peter out much faster with their poor BC and muzzle vel, so I don&#039;t recommend using them past 15 yards, unlike a heavy .177 pellet which can be good to 40 yards and still kill a grackle with ease.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1044545, member: 7123"] No kiddin? Weird because I've shot pigeons, starlings, and grackles at ranges out to 12 yards with both .177 air rifle (7-10 grain pellets at around 800 fps all the way up to 1200 fps), and with Aguila Super Colibris (20 grains @ 500 fps), and both penetrate clean through and both kill them deader than a doornail. You must have run up against some SBA-clad pigeons! :eek: Either that or "point blank range" means to you something different from what I thought it meant to you. Or maybe you hit a main bone in the wing on the way in (??). Now, the super colibris do peter out much faster with their poor BC and muzzle vel, so I don't recommend using them past 15 yards, unlike a heavy .177 pellet which can be good to 40 yards and still kill a grackle with ease. [/QUOTE]

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