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<blockquote data-quote="uncle money bags" data-source="post: 2843526" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>You 10mm guys...</p><p>Sure I would use a threaded barrel in an EDC gun. My only contention with a suppressor for a hand gun in this situation is it has a high potential of being a significant lever working against my one hand if I am having to use the other hand to do other things. In a rifle, this isnt an issue since I will have two hands on it and can drop it with sling retention if I need to. I will admit this is just my opinion based on my frame of reference. If I was going to use one, I would select it based on its length and would prefer a shorter, louder model like Gabriel posted.</p><p></p><p>As to the .300 BO being discussed. I think it would make a fine HD weapon in a short barrel (8in) format with a suppressor. Keep in mind that if you slow down the projectile to sub sonic velocities then you actually increase the chance of penetration through house type intermediate barriers. Much like a pistol round, and the ought buck or slug projectiles, they tend to stay intact and not dissipate their energy quickly. A high velocity rifle round in 5.56 or .223 which uses fragmentation as its wounding mode is far better inside a house in that respect. For example mk262, or a similarly loaded Sierra TMK. These rounds will provide you enough penetration on a soft target versus some whiz bang frangible.</p><p></p><p>I will just say it, even though it will make some you guys cross. I do not like the mini 14 as a defensive weapon. I could go on and on about that, but it isnt the point. A quality AR SBR with a suppressor will serve you better than most choices, provided the shooter spends the time to train. The idea; <u>not yours just generally</u>, that a shotgun is good for the untrained to use in HD is a bad idea.</p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT:</strong></p><p>As to active hearing pro, nice to have but forget about it. The last time I had to pull a firearm on another person I was waken from a dead sleep by the sound of glass being broken. between the time I recognized the sound, recognized the need to act and had a pistol drawn on the individual was between 5 and 10 seconds. You will not have time in that situation to do anything but orient yourself to the threat and decide to act. This wasnt some distant past event, it was less than a month ago.</p><p>Red dots are great for HD weapons since the distance to target will almost always be short enough to PID without magnification. The solution to having to turn one on, is to turn it on and leave it on. Get a quality red dot. I never turn mine off unless it is to change the battery once per year, even though I know it will last 3 or 4 times longer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="uncle money bags, post: 2843526, member: 8377"] You 10mm guys... Sure I would use a threaded barrel in an EDC gun. My only contention with a suppressor for a hand gun in this situation is it has a high potential of being a significant lever working against my one hand if I am having to use the other hand to do other things. In a rifle, this isnt an issue since I will have two hands on it and can drop it with sling retention if I need to. I will admit this is just my opinion based on my frame of reference. If I was going to use one, I would select it based on its length and would prefer a shorter, louder model like Gabriel posted. As to the .300 BO being discussed. I think it would make a fine HD weapon in a short barrel (8in) format with a suppressor. Keep in mind that if you slow down the projectile to sub sonic velocities then you actually increase the chance of penetration through house type intermediate barriers. Much like a pistol round, and the ought buck or slug projectiles, they tend to stay intact and not dissipate their energy quickly. A high velocity rifle round in 5.56 or .223 which uses fragmentation as its wounding mode is far better inside a house in that respect. For example mk262, or a similarly loaded Sierra TMK. These rounds will provide you enough penetration on a soft target versus some whiz bang frangible. I will just say it, even though it will make some you guys cross. I do not like the mini 14 as a defensive weapon. I could go on and on about that, but it isnt the point. A quality AR SBR with a suppressor will serve you better than most choices, provided the shooter spends the time to train. The idea; [U]not yours just generally[/U], that a shotgun is good for the untrained to use in HD is a bad idea. [B]EDIT:[/B] As to active hearing pro, nice to have but forget about it. The last time I had to pull a firearm on another person I was waken from a dead sleep by the sound of glass being broken. between the time I recognized the sound, recognized the need to act and had a pistol drawn on the individual was between 5 and 10 seconds. You will not have time in that situation to do anything but orient yourself to the threat and decide to act. This wasnt some distant past event, it was less than a month ago. Red dots are great for HD weapons since the distance to target will almost always be short enough to PID without magnification. The solution to having to turn one on, is to turn it on and leave it on. Get a quality red dot. I never turn mine off unless it is to change the battery once per year, even though I know it will last 3 or 4 times longer. [/QUOTE]
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