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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3025290" data-attributes="member: 5412">I think you have a good product going there, and to be factual, grizzly's have been killed with .45 acp an one with a 9mm. It's all personal opinion about the effectiveness until one takes into consideration that a griz can outrun a horse and kill it instantly. A poor shot with a lighter bullet is just that, and that might be the only shot you have. My .44 is magna ported so follow up shots in DA come quickly if needed with much heavier bullets and much more Kenetic energy per round. Same reason others have posted that they are going with .308 now. Penetration is key, and the ability to break/crush bones with the additional energy is the reason I've chosen the .44 mag. Your sharing the streams with the bears, Their primary food source in summer. Two years ago with a guide he took us to a stream and got out a lawn chair and a 7mm mag rifle. Told us if we heard a whistle, to move back to his location.If we heard two whistles, run to his location. Three whistles, drop to the ground as he was opening fire. We never saw a bear fortunately. I think your product will do well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</blockquote>