This administration's Green policies and how they affect Oil/Nat-Gas/Coal...

[ez bake]

So I keep hearing these arguments on how Obama (and the Dems') Green policies have totally crippled our nation's energy industry (so much that it is used in arguments to point out how Obama is responsible for the economy to some degree) and yet oil has made some record profits during Obama's 1st term with no signs of losing money any time soon.

The answer I seem to get is a complete ignoring of that fact while we move onto Coal (presumably because coal isn't making record profits).

So let me ask this:

What are the specific policies of Obama's administration (or even Dems in Congress or agencies like the EPA) that affect the Coal industry?

How much of an effect have these policies truly had in terms of real numbers - how much production/exporting, how much profit, how many jobs lost?





I'm genuinely interested and have learned a thing or two from the Union and Welfare threads that I honestly didn't know before.

Please use sources or use real numbers that can be found somewhere.

Here's some basic stuff from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Major_coal_producers

 

[bmwguy25]

LOL you ask for sources and real numbers yet quote wikipedia?

 

[ez bake]

LOL you ask for sources and real numbers yet quote wikipedia?

You understand why the old-ways of mistrusting Wikipedia are as stupid as mis-trusting Snopes when all of Wikipedia's sources are listed at the bottom of the page right? Also, it's Internet-regulated so anyone who makes a mis-statement can be corrected by millions of people all with access to the same source information.

Hell Fox News' website doesn't always do that for you (neither does MSNBC). I'll go on record as saying that I trust Wikipedia way more than I do either Fox or MSNBC.

 

[ignerntbend]

Wikipedia is as acurate as any encyclopedia. It isn't the absolute truth brought down from the mountain by Moses.
Nothing is. The fact that it's being constantly edited is a positive in my book. [My own book is being constantly edited]

 

[Lurker66]

I think the coal industry is feeling threatened by other energy sources.

What i find ironic is in spite of Obama, EPA and the green movement, we're producing more oil and importing way less than ever before.

I think this has affected the coal industry more than anything, not government policies.

 

[p238shooter]

If the government would back off and let the free market run, we would have the least expensive energy on the planet. America has always been innovative enough to develop ways of doing thing, and private businesses who offer the best, least expensive products come to the forefront without government intervention. We have about 200 years of oil in the ground in America today but not a new refinery in 40 years to use it. Why do we absolutely have to have an alternative solution nailed down by 2020 or we will all be taxed out of existence?

 

[ez bake]

If the government would back off and let the free market run, we would have the least expensive energy on the planet. America has always been innovative enough to develop ways of doing thing, and private businesses who offer the best, least expensive products come to the forefront without government intervention. We have about 200 years of oil in the ground in America today but not a new refinery in 40 years to use it. Why do we absolutely have to have an alternative solution nailed down by 2020 or we will all be taxed out of existence?

The concept of the free market has been thrown out years ago by the government's actions in tipping the scales towards large public-held corporations and against small private-owned companies (via regulations, corporate welfare, subsidizations, tax-loopholes, etc.). I'm a fan of free-market too, but none of this has anything to do with what the government has done to hurt the Coal or Oil industries.

 

[JD8]

We should scrap ethanol, production is down, plants are closing, and some owe the government millions. We should look for other ways to use our coal (like turning it into diesel) and facilitate the use of NG.



http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...rns-bush-plan-to-obama-test-energy-markets#p1

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...w-energy-files-for-bankruptcy-protection.html

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2012/08/usf-20120822.html

 

[inactive]

LOL you ask for sources and real numbers yet quote wikipedia?

You realize that Wikipedia cites sources, right? The section ez linked is data provided by BP.

Or did you not even click the link and look before making your uninformed, comment?

 

[inactive]

If the government would back off and let the free market run, we would have the least expensive energy on the planet.

At what point does energy cease becoming a smaller local (meaning, regional or national) market and begin to become a larger global one? I think we may already be part way to that point.