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<blockquote data-quote="Dave70968" data-source="post: 3027434" data-attributes="member: 13624"><p>A) Yes, non-citizens <em>do</em> have constitutional rights. That said, nothing you've mentioned has ever been held by the courts to be a violation of rights; detention without suspicion of a crime has been.</p><p>B) He was also illegally detaining citizens (and noncitizens who were here legally--this whole case started with his nine-hour detention of somebody here on a valid visa).</p><p>C) Are you really arguing that if one person's rights are violated, that makes it okay to violate everybody's?</p><p></p><p>Careful, YG; using facts is a good way to get called a liberal. Facts subject some people to the unaccustomed burden of thought, and they don't like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave70968, post: 3027434, member: 13624"] A) Yes, non-citizens [I]do[/I] have constitutional rights. That said, nothing you've mentioned has ever been held by the courts to be a violation of rights; detention without suspicion of a crime has been. B) He was also illegally detaining citizens (and noncitizens who were here legally--this whole case started with his nine-hour detention of somebody here on a valid visa). C) Are you really arguing that if one person's rights are violated, that makes it okay to violate everybody's? Careful, YG; using facts is a good way to get called a liberal. Facts subject some people to the unaccustomed burden of thought, and they don't like that. [/QUOTE]
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