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frankos72

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Okay, so there are lots of fears of the Anti's trying to take our guns one inch at a time. I get that this is the basic premise behind peoples fear of a UBC.

Prior to Newtown, I had sold several weapons to private buyers, all but one conducted via the classifieds on OSA. Newtown got me thinking about what I can do differently to help make sure I'm never in anyway responsible for something like Newtown. I got a little sick to my stomach when it occurred to me that any one of the guns I sold to folks I met via OSA could be used in gun violence. So that immediately led me to thinking a UBC was a good idea.

Now after reading a lot, I understand the logic of UBC leading to a gun registry. That is something I do FEAR cause I KNOW what is next. So, that leads me to thinking that a UBC law that strictly prohibits any gun registry is the ticket. But then again, many on here think that even that will ultimately lead to a Gun Registry... and in some sense I can agree... a little.

So, to prevent me from selling to the wrong person I plan to start checking for CCW permit. Problem with it is that it will exclude a large number of legal citizens from purchasing a gun from me. So my backup is to ask them to go through a 4473. I'll pay for the costs. This is currently my only other means of verifying they are a legal and sane individual.

Anyway, to my point, what alternative solutions do you of OSA propose that I (and others with similar views) can implement to make sure I don't sell a gun to the wrong person?
 

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I got a little sick to my stomach when it occurred to me that any one of the guns I sold to folks I met via OSA could be used in gun violence.

They still could. Even if you performed a complete background check on the person they could still use the gun "you" sold to them to perform horrible crimes. Just sayin...
 

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I heard a somewhat reasonable response from a caller during the Q and A after the hearings on cspan.
Have the promoter provide a vollenteer FFL to run BG checks for any private transactions if anyone wanted to avail themselves of it.

Im not for it in principal,but I might use it if(and a really really big if)no perminate record/gun information was kept on any form the gubment could get ahold of.
 

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But the Newtown massacre was done buy someone that stole the weapons and the UBC wouldn't have stopped it.

True. That is why I stopped leaving a gun in my car, and I put every gun in my house in my safe. The only gun not in a safe now, when not in use, is my EDC. I'm going to get one of those quickaccess safes for it too.

Alternative to UBC?

Liberty.
Yeah, I know I have the freedom now to choose to sell or not sell. But the question is what tools are available for me, as a private citizen, to gauge the likelihood that the buyer will turn around and use the gun for some form of gun violence. I'm not worried about things like self defense shootings or even if it gets sold a time or two more or stolen and ends up in the wrong hands. I just want to know that I don't sell a gun to a deranged lunatic that plans to march into Mcdonald's tomorrow and start unloading.
 

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But the question is what tools are available for me, as a private citizen, to gauge the likelihood that the buyer will turn around and use the gun for some form of gun violence. I just want to know that I don't sell a gun to a deranged lunatic that plans to march into Mcdonald's tomorrow and start unloading.

With all do respect these tools you are inquiring about don't and never will exist. There is no tool that will predict a person's future actions. Humans are "human", IMO everyone has their breaking point. The question is how do you keep guns out of the hands of criminals without punishing everyone?
 

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Are you sure they aren't already keeping the information called in on the 4473? Yes I know they aren't supposed to.

If they aren't already keeping track (which I think they are) I can guarantee the government could go to any FFL and demand they turn over all their paperwork at anytime.
 

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