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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SoonerP226" data-source="post: 4274702" data-attributes="member: 26737">Shoot, Bubba, you ought to try highway 169 and the Creek Turnpike in Tulsa around 5pm. The Turner ain't a stitch on it--and at least the Turner has decent approaches and merge lanes, and it doesn't have traffic backed up onto the highway because Tulsa has this unnatural, bordering on the obscene, fascination with having 10-car lights at intersections with 100-car traffic.It's almost as bad as their fetish for having the only green lights at an intersection being on the one direction that has no cars present or approaching.</blockquote>