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Why we gotta have this forum-on-forum hate?: Thread about okshooters on opencarry.org
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<blockquote data-quote="hrdware" data-source="post: 2276484" data-attributes="member: 24475"><p>When I use the word "training" in this instance, I am by no means referring to the SDA class. No, I have not yet had the opportunity to take any type of professional CQ class, however I have had a bit of retention instruction from a friend of mine who is a former police officer. No matter the CQ class, as I said before, once the presentation is made, the training should be the same. The difference before the presentation is made is simply retention.</p><p></p><p>I'd still like an example of a scenario that illustrates a major difference between OC and CC training.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Police officers and security guards represent authority, the law abiding citizen does not. If this were the case, you would see law abiding open carriers being routinely attacked in the 40+ states that have some form of open carry. Criminals don't fear the LAC arresting them and or taking them to jail as they do an LEO.</p><p></p><p>I only know of 2 events where a LAC has been targeted because they were OC. One was a guy at a gas station with bad SA that was approached by 2 people who took his firearm and went in to rob the place. He then followed them in (bad judgement) to try and get his firearm back and was subsequently shot. Another person was sitting in a restaurant eating while OC and was attacked by a mentally unstable person, in the course of the struggle the firearm came out of the holster and went spinning across the floor...no injuries occurred. Neither of these happened in OK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hrdware, post: 2276484, member: 24475"] When I use the word "training" in this instance, I am by no means referring to the SDA class. No, I have not yet had the opportunity to take any type of professional CQ class, however I have had a bit of retention instruction from a friend of mine who is a former police officer. No matter the CQ class, as I said before, once the presentation is made, the training should be the same. The difference before the presentation is made is simply retention. I'd still like an example of a scenario that illustrates a major difference between OC and CC training. Police officers and security guards represent authority, the law abiding citizen does not. If this were the case, you would see law abiding open carriers being routinely attacked in the 40+ states that have some form of open carry. Criminals don't fear the LAC arresting them and or taking them to jail as they do an LEO. I only know of 2 events where a LAC has been targeted because they were OC. One was a guy at a gas station with bad SA that was approached by 2 people who took his firearm and went in to rob the place. He then followed them in (bad judgement) to try and get his firearm back and was subsequently shot. Another person was sitting in a restaurant eating while OC and was attacked by a mentally unstable person, in the course of the struggle the firearm came out of the holster and went spinning across the floor...no injuries occurred. Neither of these happened in OK. [/QUOTE]
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