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Why we gotta have this forum-on-forum hate?: Thread about okshooters on opencarry.org
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<blockquote data-quote="tRidiot" data-source="post: 2276507" data-attributes="member: 9374"><p>Absolutely not. However, in the general context of this discussion, it is quite reasonable I believe to take your comments as derogatory towards OCers en masse (or at least a large amount) due to their being "lackadaisical" in their responsibilities re" OCing. I am merely pointing out this is NOT a situation limited to OC and is just as prevalent as those who CC. In fact, in my experience on this forum, there are many OCers who DO advocate as such (although many of us have not yet had the time/money/opportunity/inclination to follow through). I also even argued AGAINST the proposed OC requirement for retention holsters and/or training, even though I do use a retention holster 95% of the time when I am OCing. I do try to remain situationally aware, though I am sure it could always be better. We can all always do better.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Straw man. Come on, man... No one is saying it is universally respected, no one has ever said it will never happen. But the numbers don't lie, and the reports from criminals and FBI research and many many sources are quite overwhelming. OC has been legal in many states for many years... and it is undeniably obvious that events like those you seem to fear (normal folks getting accosted for their own weapons) are few and far between. EXCRUCIATINGLY SO.</p><p></p><p>In fact, if you're that worried about it, then wearing a knife on your belt where it can be seen is also, to a lesser degree, irresponsible or inviting problems. Same goes for... lots of situations. Can it happen? Yes, absolutely. Is it a real risk? Yes, absolutely. Is it something we should be aware of and prepare for? Yes, absolutely.</p><p></p><p>But is it a commonplace-enough occurrence that the possibility of being disarmed and possibly shot with your own weapon outweighs the potential benefit of maybe discouraging some ne'er-do-wells who might have nefarious (there's one of my favorite words again, lol) intentions? And all the other listed benefits vs. cons of OC? </p><p></p><p>Not to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tRidiot, post: 2276507, member: 9374"] Absolutely not. However, in the general context of this discussion, it is quite reasonable I believe to take your comments as derogatory towards OCers en masse (or at least a large amount) due to their being "lackadaisical" in their responsibilities re" OCing. I am merely pointing out this is NOT a situation limited to OC and is just as prevalent as those who CC. In fact, in my experience on this forum, there are many OCers who DO advocate as such (although many of us have not yet had the time/money/opportunity/inclination to follow through). I also even argued AGAINST the proposed OC requirement for retention holsters and/or training, even though I do use a retention holster 95% of the time when I am OCing. I do try to remain situationally aware, though I am sure it could always be better. We can all always do better. Straw man. Come on, man... No one is saying it is universally respected, no one has ever said it will never happen. But the numbers don't lie, and the reports from criminals and FBI research and many many sources are quite overwhelming. OC has been legal in many states for many years... and it is undeniably obvious that events like those you seem to fear (normal folks getting accosted for their own weapons) are few and far between. EXCRUCIATINGLY SO. In fact, if you're that worried about it, then wearing a knife on your belt where it can be seen is also, to a lesser degree, irresponsible or inviting problems. Same goes for... lots of situations. Can it happen? Yes, absolutely. Is it a real risk? Yes, absolutely. Is it something we should be aware of and prepare for? Yes, absolutely. But is it a commonplace-enough occurrence that the possibility of being disarmed and possibly shot with your own weapon outweighs the potential benefit of maybe discouraging some ne'er-do-wells who might have nefarious (there's one of my favorite words again, lol) intentions? And all the other listed benefits vs. cons of OC? Not to me. [/QUOTE]
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