Supreme Court to Hear Challenge to Straw Purchase Law

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given their legal interpretation, anyone(privately) who bought a lower with the intent to flip it broke the law. I may be wrong, but I thought the legal definition of a straw purchase was to buy one for someone who could not legally purchase it themselves.
 

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You can buy one and gift it to a kid?

For only 30¢ a day, you can help keep young Pedro supplied with the ammunition he needs to beat back the cartel thugs who threaten his already crappy quality of life. The cartels buy federales by the gross, so the only help he's going to get will come from you.
 

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The Supreme Court took up a new gun rights case on Wednesday, weighing whether it should be a crime for someone to buy a gun for somebody else, if both people are legally allowed to own one.

This falls into the occasion when I went to BP in Tulsa. I have a credit card that gives me free air miles and we use it for everything. My buddy said he wanted the rifle and agreed to let me buy it, and he would pay me back in cash. He agreed to fill out the yellow sheet.

Well, the counter guy said that wasn't going to happen, so he did his job, but I always thought it was a stupid rule.

A bona fide gift is fine; buying it with the intent that somebody else pay you back for it is not.

How does one determine that I was going to get a pay back. We never discussed this with the counter person. Perhaps I was going to "gift" it to him?

This is so stupid. A few years ago my wife thought she needed a 9mm. So we went to the LGS and she picked one out, did the paperwork, got approved, etc. When I whipped out the cash they about had a stroke. The fact that she's my wife has zero credence with that, but if I die she gets half of everything by law. Like I said, STUPID...
 

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It all depends on the intent of the law. If it's intent is to keep bad people from getting guns, the prosecutorial discretion not exercised in this case is a willful violation of the spirit of the law and the indictment should be voided. If the intent of the law was to give the government discretionary control over The People for bureaucratic purposes, then the indictment should stand.

Criminal prosecution is supposed to be about justice, not what you can get away with in a court of law. Anyone who actually believes this should probably be prevented from acting independently though. :(
 

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(6) for any person in connection with the acquisition
or attempted acquisition of any firearm
or ammunition from a licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed
collector, knowingly to make any false
or fictitious oral or written statement or to
furnish or exhibit any false, fictitious, or misrepresented
identification, intended or likely
to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer,
or collector with respect to any fact material
to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition
of such firearm or ammunition under
the provisions of this chapter;

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title18/pdf/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap44.pdf
 

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There's a transcript of the oral arguments at http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2014/01/supreme_court_t_6.php, along with a very succinct explanation of the case:
Rather strange legal issue. The back of the 4473 says if you are going to make a gift of the gun to someone you should answer yes, you are actual recipient. The government theory here is that it wasn't a true gift... the uncle had sent him money for it, so he should have answered no. And if he'd bought it from himself and later decided to sell it to the uncle, he'd be okay to answer yes. I find it hard to reconcile all those positions, if the issue is how you answer that specific question: are you the actual recipient of the firearm? How can the answer to that question depend upon whether you meant to give it to someone as a gift or to give it to them after being paid for it?
 

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