You stated "general acceptance", not scientific results.
I am saying that comparing the acceptance of a person as a leader is not the same as accepting scientific data. One is about accepting a single person's opinions and goals, and the other is about accepting measurements of quantifiable things with adequate controls.
So you mean that because most people interpret scientific data the same way, you should not?
Do you understand the scientific data about evolution?
I was more referring to observation of a living creature from point A to B. But you are correct.
The long term E. coli experiment makes for really interesting reading if you have the time.
Technically, accepting scientific theory is most often a matter of accepting other people's opinion(s) that the theory provides the best available explanation for the results of measurements of quantifiable things with adequate controls ... or sometimes not, as in the case of "global warming". In that regard it remains very much something of a popularity contest - just one in which only scientists get to vote.
Evolution is a stupid theory. If you look at the big picture it just isn't possible for a star to have exploded and then everything formed out of that matter. Then everything just miraculously evolved into what there is today. Look at how complex the human body is. That had to be created by God. There is no other feasible way for it to have occurred. Yes we are very similar to apes but we are also very similar to pigs. Does that mean we evolved from them? I just don't see how someone can actually believe that we evolved. And why did it just stop happening all of the sudden? There are just too many holes in that theory. But people are free to believe it all they want. Just like I am free to believe in my God. I took astronomy in college and I wrote my paper in Christianity and the theory of evolution. My professor could not tell me definitively that evolution or the Big Bang theory actually happened. He got stumped everytime I had a conversation about it. Sure the same can be said about Christianity but to me the proof is all around us. I look at it in the mirror everyday. And when people talk about how they know things based on carbon dating. That is Innaccurate. The amount of radiation back then was much different than today so that method is not accurate.
true, there is no proof of the science theories.
I'd be curious to read that paper because it appears that you don't understand the very basics of evolution.
I guess I am sort of a "creationist." I believe the notion of gods was created around a campfire to comfort the surviving relatives of Thag Simmons, who was eaten that day by a sabre toothed cat.
Don't call me an atheist--that's a religion, and what started out in the caves as a comfort has come to justify some pretty bad behavior.
As to evolution, I think it's real and has been proven thoroughly. As to faith, if you need yours supported by science, you don't have enough. If you need to be comforted as to what's outside the cave and religion does this for you, good.
As to where it all came from, I do not know. Evidently what we see as time is not what it really is. I do believe that there is only one thing, and that time as we understand it is simply something created by the "one thing." Whether this was from boredom, curiosity, (it certainly isn't out of love considering the living hell some innocents are exposed to) or from some need we couldn't possibly understand, here we are in the time stream, trying to understand what probably can't be understood.
Perhaps when we die, all we have experienced goes back to the "one thing" to be added to a supply of knowledge and experience. Some believe we can return to any moment in the time line and choose a life anywhere on it. I'm not so sure.
For me, the idea of Jehovah in the sky (complete with sausage curls) creating everything in a few days a few thousand years ago simply doesn't work. To me, a lack of religion is utterly necessary. I'll take my chances with the Christian hell, and do not think any just form of god would permit such a thing, if any of the gods are real.
I haven't read this entire thread, just wanted to share a few thoughts. May whatever god/s you serve bless you!
Don't call me an atheist--that's a religion, and what started out in the caves as a comfort has come to justify some pretty bad behavior.
As to evolution, I think it's real and has been proven thoroughly. As to faith, if you need yours supported by science, you don't have enough. If you need to be comforted as to what's outside the cave and religion does this for you, good.
As to where it all came from, I do not know. Evidently what we see as time is not what it really is. I do believe that there is only one thing, and that time as we understand it is simply something created by the "one thing." Whether this was from boredom, curiosity, (it certainly isn't out of love considering the living hell some innocents are exposed to) or from some need we couldn't possibly understand, here we are in the time stream, trying to understand what probably can't be understood.
Perhaps when we die, all we have experienced goes back to the "one thing" to be added to a supply of knowledge and experience. Some believe we can return to any moment in the time line and choose a life anywhere on it. I'm not so sure.
For me, the idea of Jehovah in the sky (complete with sausage curls) creating everything in a few days a few thousand years ago simply doesn't work. To me, a lack of religion is utterly necessary. I'll take my chances with the Christian hell, and do not think any just form of god would permit such a thing, if any of the gods are real.
I haven't read this entire thread, just wanted to share a few thoughts. May whatever god/s you serve bless you!
Your mind holds some of the biggest misconceptions about evolution. Evolution never stops, it never will! Where did you hear that it stopped?
Macro evolution doesn't happen often (aka speciation) which is what most people think of when they hear evolution. Micro evolution happens non stop. I don't think you actually know what evolution is. Next, we are related to all living things on earth, and apes are some of our closest relatives. Pigs are right up there too.
Lastly, an astronomy professor doesn't know jack about evolution. Thats not their field!
I would love to hear you Stumping questions......
This is why I enjoy logging on to OSA every month or two. There are some of the most ignerntass people on here that you could ever hope to encounter.
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