Everyone lighten up! There are far far more serious problems in the world - war in Iraq, Afganistan, growing problems in Iran, China, and the Middle East, the major problem in Stillwater, genocide in the Sudan, hunger and AIDS in Africa, gay cowboy movies, etc. "Can't we all just get along?"
i have a business card of Doug Friesen (the lawyer that does the classes at H&H).
On the back of the card --- "Statement of Constitutional Rights"
if you are stopped and/or questioned by the police, you should know and be able to recite the following.
"Officer, I mean no disrespect, but I understand my rights. I have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. I have a right to refuse to consent to any search of my body and personal effects. I wish to exercise all my rights. If I am under arrest, I wish to invoke and exercise my Miranda rights and be allowed the opportunity to obtain the advice of my attorney. If I am to be taken into custody, I request a resonable opportunity to make arrangements to secure my own property. If I am not under arrest, I want to leave. If I am free to leave, please tell me immediately so I may go about my business."
On the back of the card --- "Statement of Constitutional Rights"
if you are stopped and/or questioned by the police, you should know and be able to recite the following.
"Officer, I mean no disrespect, but I understand my rights. I have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. I have a right to refuse to consent to any search of my body and personal effects. I wish to exercise all my rights. If I am under arrest, I wish to invoke and exercise my Miranda rights and be allowed the opportunity to obtain the advice of my attorney. If I am to be taken into custody, I request a resonable opportunity to make arrangements to secure my own property. If I am not under arrest, I want to leave. If I am free to leave, please tell me immediately so I may go about my business."
Don't Poke The Bear!
Liliysdad, thanks for the reminder about "stopping the threat". I understand what you are saying.
I just hope no plaintiff's attorney ever reads this thread.
Michael Brown
Michael Brown
Michael Brown said:I just hope no plaintiff's attorney ever reads this thread.
Michael Brown
We will all be screwed
I just took the class at H&H,... Doug was awesome and funny and really set you at ease and was all about the no BS.. If you asked a question you got a straight answer.
1. Stop the Threat
2. Put your weapon at your feet.
2b. (this is where I disagreed but you will get the idea) I would first check for additional threats. I don't know if the perp had a car full of buddys down the street that just saw their comrade get shot. Once I was sure I safe I would find cover and either holster or keep my weapon out but discreat and hidden.
3. Call 911.. you want to be the FIRST to report it. Call 911 and say "There has been a violent incident at *Address*. Please send the Police" (That is all he said it say.. and to hang up) Personally.. I would give them a discription of myself and make them repeat the address and discription. This way the cops coming in hot know they are looking for a caller wearing what I am wearing.
When I hear the sirens.. and yes.. there will be sirens.. I will either place my gun on the ground at this point and raise my hands HIGH in the air.
4. When the police show up.. I will state this and this alone. "Officer. I am the one who called you. My name is Cory Hawk. What would you like me to do"
5. Follow the instructions VERY carefully. When asked what happend say NOTHING. The only thing you should be saying is I would like an opportunity to arrange a call to my lawyer before answering any questions.
again.. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING.. Nothing.. Nada.. zip.. I don't care how nice the LEO is.. in this instance he is not your friend. He is doing a job and that job is to get you to talk. Shut up and Lawyer up.
1. Stop the Threat
2. Put your weapon at your feet.
2b. (this is where I disagreed but you will get the idea) I would first check for additional threats. I don't know if the perp had a car full of buddys down the street that just saw their comrade get shot. Once I was sure I safe I would find cover and either holster or keep my weapon out but discreat and hidden.
3. Call 911.. you want to be the FIRST to report it. Call 911 and say "There has been a violent incident at *Address*. Please send the Police" (That is all he said it say.. and to hang up) Personally.. I would give them a discription of myself and make them repeat the address and discription. This way the cops coming in hot know they are looking for a caller wearing what I am wearing.
When I hear the sirens.. and yes.. there will be sirens.. I will either place my gun on the ground at this point and raise my hands HIGH in the air.
4. When the police show up.. I will state this and this alone. "Officer. I am the one who called you. My name is Cory Hawk. What would you like me to do"
5. Follow the instructions VERY carefully. When asked what happend say NOTHING. The only thing you should be saying is I would like an opportunity to arrange a call to my lawyer before answering any questions.
again.. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING.. Nothing.. Nada.. zip.. I don't care how nice the LEO is.. in this instance he is not your friend. He is doing a job and that job is to get you to talk. Shut up and Lawyer up.
AaronT said:
If you weren't going to jail before you whip out your little card and start reading it,you are now.
Don't Poke the Bear!
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