Sorry I had to do that in previous post. I seem to have better luck with the plugs that have the plastic springy piece that applies some squeezing pressure.I too have been enjoying some good dove shoots but I would appreciate your suggestions. I am not very happy with the ear protection I have been using. Can't go with ear muffs...get in the way of gun stock. I don't think the old stand by foam ear plugs are not getting the job done. What am I going to do? Know what I mean huh.