Grendal would have made more sense if they had redesigned the M4 to make accommodations for the larger case. Grendal wont work for military purposes in the M4, the bolt wont hold up.6.5 Grendel has always made more sense to me. Anything close, it’s equal to a 6.8. Anything longer range and the 6.5 Grendel is far superior.
the military needs to decide if they are into target shooting or gunfights. every gunfight/ambush i am familiar with happened inside 50 yards
i wasn't a tunnel rat, but the 50, or less, yard range for gunfights was the norm, not the exception. the NVA were very good troops.
Not unless you want a 20" barrel and it takes 24" to really stretch out it's legs. Long tubes and it's wonderful! In a carbine, not so much.6.5 Grendel has always made more sense to me. Anything close, it’s equal to a 6.8. Anything longer range and the 6.5 Grendel is far superior.
Because of the open ranges in Afghan, the Talibeaners have been using MGs and to harass our guys. The good thing is, MGs aren't that accurate at 800 plus meters. Instead of getting up in the high ground and engaging them our guys are mostly conducting security patrols in vehicles. Not the best strategy.I think I have read something about a good amount of longer-range running gun battles in Afghanistan, like several hundred yards, squads being pinned down by 2 or 3 Taliban up in the rocky hills. I don't know how common it is, but it seems I read some of them lamenting they didn't have a heavier/faster round to reach out and really pin them down or take them out.
I could also be totally making **** up, I don't know. Just seems like I read something about that, somewhere, and that was at least one argument in favor of a caliber change, or at least an additional loadout for several members of a team. Of course, before long, you've got one guy with a SAW, one with a shotgun, one with a longrange hunting rifle, etc. I'm not a military guy, so I don't know how that all works.
Grendal is still better than 6.8 at longer ranges, even with shorter barrelsNot unless you want a 20" barrel and it takes 24" to really stretch out it's legs. Long tubes and it's wonderful! In a carbine, not so much.
Exactly.Grendal is still better than 6.8 at longer ranges, even with shorter barrels
A lot of vets don’t like M4’s either.i wouldn't take a grendal into a gunfight. and i'll not debate it or make explanation.
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