Apex Grade M&P barrel

[Shadowrider]

I have the 5" Pro model in .40. The difference in accuracy between my Kimber .45 and the M&P is very noticeable. I'll check out Bar-sto. Thanks for the heads up!

Some folks were getting 4-5" groups at 15 yards with their 9s. The .40s and .45s aren't near as bad. The .45s actually are pretty good in the accuracy dept, it's mostly the 9s that have issues. S&W has changed the rifling twist but is hasn't fixed the problem. The problem is tolerance stack in the barrel fitment to the slide. Randy Lee at APEX has made a science out of it, but the cliff note version is that some guns are just too sloppy.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Some folks were getting 4-5" groups at 15 yards with their 9s. The .40s and .45s aren't near as bad. The .45s actually are pretty good in the accuracy dept, it's mostly the 9s that have issues. S&W has changed the rifling twist but is hasn't fixed the problem. The problem is tolerance stack in the barrel fitment to the slide. Randy Lee at APEX has made a science out of it, but the cliff note version is that some guns are just too sloppy.

I don't know how I've been so lucky with all the 9s I've owned...they've all been surprisingly accurate. I wonder how many (i.e., percentage) leave the factory that would be considered inaccurate?

 

[O4L]

I never had any accuracy issues with my M&P nines.

 

[dennishoddy]

Some folks were getting 4-5" groups at 15 yards with their 9s. The .40s and .45s aren't near as bad. The .45s actually are pretty good in the accuracy dept, it's mostly the 9s that have issues. S&W has changed the rifling twist but is hasn't fixed the problem. The problem is tolerance stack in the barrel fitment to the slide. Randy Lee at APEX has made a science out of it, but the cliff note version is that some guns are just too sloppy.

I'm lucky to get 4". Some of those small steel plates are pretty hard to hit. My .45 is half that.

 

[O4L]

I'm lucky to get 4". Some of those small steel plates are pretty hard to hit. My .45 is half that.

That's because 45 is so much more awesome...er! You don't even need to aim with it! [emoji3]

 

[YukonGlocker]

Nah. We already had this discussion. The .40 is simply, overall, that sucky.

 

[Shadowrider]

He explains what the deal is in this video. It's a little long....

 

[O4L]

Nah. We already had this discussion. The .40 is simply, overall, that sucky.

I agree.

I thought he was comparing the forty five to the nine. [emoji3]

 

[dennishoddy]

That's because 45 is so much more awesome...er! You don't even need to aim with it! [emoji3]

That goes without saying. Blows off legs with a marginal hit.

 

[O4L]

Thanks for the video, shadowrider.

Quite impressive results with the new barrel and the gun mounted in the ransom rest.

I've never used a ransom rest. All I know is I've been able to hit what I'm aiming at, but I always crank up the dwell time knob on my M&P's. [emoji41]