Boy Scouts To Remove "Boy" From Name

[mugsy]

Honestly, you have no issue with the group Until Recently Known As Boy Scouts, founded to teach boys and young men essential skills for growing into manhood (and manhood's essential tasks) being co-opted to promote homosexuality at the youngest ages, and androgeny (may have made that word up) as they advance?

The simple fact is that while many boys/girls can do the same or similar things they are not the same - there is an essential and natural difference between the vast majority of men/boys and women/girls. No need to be afraid of that, we should embrace and nurture it and teach our children abut the complementarity of the sexes. One doesn't have to be from the 50's (I'm not) to recognize the very natural differences.

My disclaimer - I have a daughter who followed me into a military career (she's about to pin on major) and who is not short on doing "tough things" but I still wouldn't want her to have grown up having no place that wasn't an enforced school of homogeneity.

 

[Annie]

Honestly, you have no issue with the group Until Recently Known As Boy Scouts, founded to teach boys and young men essential skills for growing into manhood (and manhood's essential tasks) being co-opted to promote homosexuality at the youngest ages, and androgeny (may have made that word up) as they advance?

The simple fact is that while many boys/girls can do the same or similar things they are not the same - there is an essential and natural difference between the vast majority of men/boys and women/girls. No need to be afraid of that, we should embrace and nurture it and teach our children abut the complementarity of the sexes. One doesn't have to be from the 50's (I'm not) to recognize the very natural differences.

My disclaimer - I have a daughter who followed me into a military career (she's about to pin on major) and who is not short on doing "tough things" but I still wouldn't want her to have grown up having no place that wasn't an enforced school of homogeneity.

If by "you" you mean me, you know better than that.

 

[p238shooter]

About 1980 I was asked to accompany a group of 11 Girl Scouts (One of them being my Daughter) on their first camp out with their two female scout leaders who were outdoor people also. We all had fun "roughing" it close to a campsite with restrooms. Fun teaching them how to put up tents, some of them to strike a match for the very first time to light leaves and twigs for camp fires, cook their own hot dogs, and naturally make smores. None got burned, broken, or eaten by bears. We had one scrape when she tripped over a rock walking through the woods on a "field trip".

I had to ask my Daughter to stand back and let some of the other ones that had never camped out before do it for them selves. A few years ago I was out with my daughter and we ran into one of her friends that had gone on that camping trip. It had made an impression on her to strike a real match almost 40 years ago.

Young people growing up in the city today have no idea what they are missing not getting out in the woods enjoying nature.

They gave me an official "Girl Scout" membership certificate with my name on it, suspect not many males have those from the past. Still have it hanging on the wall just for fun with some other old stuff.

 

[RustedBeef]

BSA is finally moving into the modern era of xe xir and xems. Hurray! I fully expect them to start allowing fabulous middle aged (prefered noun here) to be scouts instead of just leaders. Why even bother with criminal background checks anymore? It's the inclusive thing to do!!

..... *vomit*




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[mugsy]

If by "you" you mean me, you know better than that.

My comment was more to the crowd at large. This issue gets under my skin, not because boys & girls can't do similar things but because I can't shake the feeling that the real goal is to eliminate any recognition that men and women are, in fact, by nature somewhat different.

 

[Annie]

My comment was more to the crowd at large. This issue gets under my skin, not because boys & girls can't do similar things but because I can't shake the feeling that the real goal is to eliminate any recognition that men and women are, in fact, by nature somewhat different.

Ahh, ok, I thought so. It gets under my skin because I was one of those kids who didn't get to do the things she enjoyed because in our day and age "it wasn't proper". I figure there has to be a happy medium there somewhere but not as long as us sane folks keep letting the extremists on both ends drive the bus.

 

[POKE1911]

Good! This organization is so far removed from the organization I grew up around. Still calling the organization BSA is hypercritical.

 

[mugsy]

Good! This organization is so far removed from the organization I grew up around. Still calling the organization BSA is hypercritical.

Did you mean hypocritical? ESL is difficult. j/k

 

[mugsy]

About 1980 I was asked to accompany a group of 11 Girl Scouts (One of them being my Daughter) on their first camp out with their two female scout leaders who were outdoor people also. We all had fun "roughing" it close to a campsite with restrooms. Fun teaching them how to put up tents, some of them to strike a match for the very first time to light leaves and twigs for camp fires, cook their own hot dogs, and naturally make smores. None got burned, broken, or eaten by bears. We had one scrape when she tripped over a rock walking through the woods on a "field trip".

I had to ask my Daughter to stand back and let some of the other ones that had never camped out before do it for them selves. A few years ago I was out with my daughter and we ran into one of her friends that had gone on that camping trip. It had made an impression on her to strike a real match almost 40 years ago.

Young people growing up in the city today have no idea what they are missing not getting out in the woods enjoying nature.

They gave me an official "Girl Scout" membership certificate with my name on it, suspect not many males have those from the past. Still have it hanging on the wall just for fun with some other old stuff.

Good on you for helping them. I mean that sincerely.

 

[TerryMiller]

I guess I'm different than some. I was born almost 72 years ago and was in Boy Scouts for a few years. However, in our troop, there was less learning and more just camping out somewhere and hanging out. Thus, I didn't stay in the program, and got to do more camping out on my own.

I've now got 4 grandkids, with two being boys and two being girls. They (the boys at this point) are getting started in scouting and their dad is actually helping be a leader. With this change, the girls (who are somewhat kind of like tomboys) will now have an opportunity to get into scouting and camping.

The next time I get back to the city to see our son and his kids, I need to take my old Boy Scout Handbook so they can see it. My son said that he thought the other scout leaders would like to see that as well.