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gerhard1

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This is what I just sent.

Dear Sen. Coburn,

Like all people, I am appalled at occurances such as Newtown, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Columbine. The response from gun-control advocates has been predictable, and include renewal of the 1994 ban on military-style rifles, universal background checks and other proposals.

And while I don't believe that you will support any law similar to the 1994 ban, I have heard that you are considering throwing your weight behind the idea of universal background checks. Please don't. This idea, I am very afraid, will open the door to registration, and eventual confiscation. It is, in my view, de facto registration.

If you disagree, I would very much like to hear how we can be assured that this will not become in fact, registration.

Please contact me concerning this, as this has me very worried.

Thank you.
I'll share any response that I get.
 

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I think we need to call his office and constantly remind them that UBC is a direct path to registration.
I plan to do that. PLease consider doing so as well.
:)
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Dear XXX,
Thank you for contacting me regarding firearms and the Second Amendment. There are few issues more controversial in our society or more central to any discussion on freedom’s foundation.

Let me say from the outset that my response to you is not unique. As you may know from previous correspondence, I take very seriously my responsibility to thoughtfully respond to each letter or email individually. In this situation however, due the high volume of mail and my desire not to keep you waiting, I want to more generally share with you the principles that guide me in reviewing any legislation related our Second Amendment rights. With that in mind, please do not hesitate to write again with further comments. You can be certain I will personally receive your comments and respond to any additional concerns.

As you know, the discussions now ongoing in Washington regarding guns are driven largely by the senseless murders that occurred in Newtown and Aurora this past year. Unfortunately, the kind of unspeakable violence we saw on those darks days has become all-too-common in our society today. While I think most of the solutions being offered look more at symptoms than the real disease, I do think it is entirely appropriate for our nation to take a hard look at itself and seriously examine the causal factors behind violent outbursts.

First and foremost, this discussion on reducing violence must begin with one unshakable principle-our Constitution is the single greatest protector of life and liberty, and must not be infringed upon. The same Bill of Rights that upholds the value of each and every human life also recognizes our inherent right to protect ourselves. I reject any notion that one right must be sacrificed to strengthen the other. In fact, I believe it is just the opposite. This has been my guide throughout my time in the senate, and I think my record demonstrates that no other Senator has stood more firmly or alone in advancing these principles. If you are interested in learning more, you can view my legislative record online at http://1.usa.gov/UGN28K and http://1.usa.gov/XoG6eT.

With this as my guide, I do believe there is a legitimate need to examine our current system for keeping guns out of the hands of those who are already prohibited by law from possessing such weapons-felons and those adjudicated as a “mental defective.” While no legislation can stop every act of violence, including the tragedies of the past year, we should work within our constitutional authority to make these systems actually work. And the truth is, there is a gap in current policy that allows these already-prohibited individuals to skirt the law and purchase weapons. A large number of guns are sold outside of the current background check system and I believe we must re-examine our approach.

In reality, the current National Instant Check System (NICS), which is used by firearm sellers to determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to purchase firearms, is incomplete and failing to achieve its desired results. This is particularly true for those persons who have been adjudicated as a “mental defective,” and are supposed to be included in the NICS Index. As a physician, I believe our nation must do more to ensure those with mental illnesses who are a threat to themselves and others have access to treatment and are prevented from accessing firearms. To this end, officials at every level of government must examine our compliance with current laws and policies aimed at achieving this. In 2007, Congress passed the NICS Improvement Amendments Act (P.L. 110-180) which established incentives for state, local, and tribal governments to increase the compliance of states reporting seriously mentally ill persons to the NICS system. However, a July 2012 Government Accountability Office (GAO) study found that these incentives have not been implemented, and the law has not achieved the intended purpose of improving the reporting rates of mental health records by states. As of October 2011, only 12 states had made substantial improvement in reporting, while almost half of the states, including Oklahoma, had barely made any progress in this area. While states have primacy in passing laws and establishing policies on how to submit records to the NICS index, Congress should review, and amend if necessary, the recently passed NICS Improvement Act to ensure that it achieves it intended purpose of properly identifying and preventing access to firearms for those who are prohibited from it.

In the weeks ahead, I am willing to listen to and discuss this issue with anyone who wants to seriously deliberate it. We have much to gain from the discussion, including examining the obvious impact of violent media, the breakdown of the family unit, the lack of available mental health options, and the failure of the current administration to prosecute gun crimes. It may surprise you to learn that prosecutions of federal guns crimes have dropped dramatically in recent years, and I believe Congress has a duty to hold the President and his Justice Department accountable for this lapse.

As I enter these discussions, I do so with a firm commitment to our Constitution and the individual right to keep and bear arms. There are no easy answers, but I do not believe we have anything to fear from an open, honest debate.

Thank you again for your message. If you have additional concerns, I do hope to hear from you soon.
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When I call, I plan on starting the conversation by saying UBC is a path to registration.
Then, since Coburn seems focused on the fact that people with mental health issues are not being reported into NICs, I am going to point out in my calls to his office, that mental health indicators are not good predictors of violent behaviour. For every person who has a set of indicators who becomes violent, there are thousands of people with the same indicators who live peaceful lives.
The only reliable predictor of violent behavior is past violent convictions, IMHO.
So I will remind him to be particularly careful of starting us down a slippery slope where anybody with th eslightest form of mental illness is judged unsuitable to own a firearm.
Just my 2 cents to our Senator from OK!
I'll do the same to Inhofe & My congressman.
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Called on Monday. Called today. The secretary seemed to take issue with my concern about vets with PTSD being denied their rights and not seeking treatment as a result.

She said that he only supports denying those who have been declared mentally adjudicated or a violent threat by a court. I responded that is already supposed to be part of the NICS so a new law is not necessary. She was annoyed.
 

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Called on Monday. Called today. The secretary seemed to take issue with my concern about vets with PTSD being denied their rights and not seeking treatment as a result.

She said that he only supports denying those who have been declared mentally adjudicated or a violent threat by a court. I responded that is already supposed to be part of the NICS so a new law is not necessary. She was annoyed.

Grey slope we are on here... if some bureaucrats decide to label you as a "domestic terrorist" or felon for ignoring whatever BS gun law they pass, or because you happen to believe in personal freedom and express a different opinion than theirs, they say their little law can take away your rights to self defense.

I say come and take it. My rights are not granted or privileged from the government that can be taken away by some bureaucrats law. I am a sovereign human retaining all natural god given rights from my creator, nations are created by and for, we the people, to protect those rights not try to legislate them away. These politicians have been corrupted by media propaganda, lobbiests and other government leeches sucking off the teet in DC. They believe they can legislate the away right of the people by Democracy (majority rule). These politicians need reminded that they are servants to the people and their oath to office, to a republic, the government is instilled to protect an individuals rights over the tyranny by a majority! When a government becomes contrary to this end, us sovereign humans retain the power to group together and create new government in its place. I'm done compromising and playing nice with the liberal popular culture wussies that are so scared of independent thinking and free people.
 

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Like most politicians, they never see your emails or answer you phone calls. Thats why they have people in their office, to take care of these non important people and things.
 

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I got his form letter today as well. Here's my reply:

Sir,

I've contacted your office specifically because I'm VERY concerned that you might not fully understand the gravity of the situation. You've served Oklahoma honorably and with distinction for years. I'd hate to see that overshadowed by this particular issue. This concern is specific to exactly how the U.S. Government could enact further gun legislation without widespread constitutional abuses. Perhaps we're on the same page here and it's merely a matter of perception. In the interest of furthering the discussion, I propose the following:

That there is no "gun show loophole". That private sales at gun shows that are no different than one citizen selling his privately owned firearm to another.

That the NICS system be opened up to private gun owners to use voluntarily, in order to safeguard the guns they're selling from falling into the wrong hands.

That there be no costs to the citizen associated with these checks, either public or private. To force private citizens to sell their firearms only through a licensed dealer would be tantamount to enacting a tax on our 2nd Amendment rights. The government cannot force dealers to provide NICS checks for free and they could charge exorbitant fees for doing so, particularly if they happen to be "the only game in town". Furthermore, all FFL dealers are required to maintain Form 4473 records, which are subsequently turned over to BATFE if they ever go out of business. Forcing all private sales to be conducted through dealers would be equivalent to gun registration.

That background checks not be federally mandated, but if mandated, that no records be created on the make, model and serial number of the gun to be transferred, even temporarily. To do so would be tantamount to gun registration. That there be no delays on private transfers. Either the buyer is specifically barred from ownership, or they're not. That gun owners not be required to keep transfer records. That under no circumstances are there any criminal penalties for conducting a private transfer without a background check. Enacting criminal penalties would inevitably make thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens into criminals, simply because something that has been perfectly free and legal since the creation of the United States is suddenly regulated. That if any penalties are considered, they be regulatory civil penalties only.

That the federal government legislate and fund the necessary reporting of those adjudicated in a court of law as mentally incompetent to NICS. That doctors be expressly forbidden from reporting mental health diagnoses, records or reports to NICS or anyone other than a court of law for a mental competency hearing, for the purposes of gun ownership restrictions. Doctors are not trained or ordinarily experienced in the adjudication of these civil and constitutional rights of The People. To authorize them to report patients in any other manner would have a chilling effect on doctor patient confidentiality. This would ultimately lead patients to forego seeking needed medical and mental health treatment, for fear of losing their constitutional rights. This is currently a serious concern among gun owners.

I'd also like to point out that Senator Schumer's stance on privately owned firearms is well known. In working with Senator Schumer, you're making all knowledgeable firearms owners VERY nervous. We simply do not trust him to adequately safeguard or constitutional rights. Please don't take this as an indictment of what you're trying to accomplish, which is noble to say the least. I have another proposal for you though. If Senator Schumer, President Obama and other politicians are serious about everyone "coming together to compromise on common sense gun legislation", I'd ask that you hold them to the true meaning of the word "Compromise". They should be willing to concede measures that bring us more in line with the freedoms our Founding Fathers intended us to have. They have repeatedly used the Commerce Clause to enact restrictions. I propose that by barring interstate private transfers of firearms by private citizens, they are in direct violation of the Commerce Clause. If Universal Background Checks are implemented, then there should be no further reason to restrict interstate sales, correct? After all, the federal government has no business regulating and enforcing local and state gun laws, so that isn't a valid excuse.

I'd also like to see interstate protections enacted for those who carry a firearm for defense. There is no reason as an American citizen that we should have the right to carry a firearm for defense in one state, but not another. This has a chilling effect on my right to freedom of movement, which is constitutionally protected. Why should we be forced to give up one right in order to exercise another?

Thank you sir for your time and consideration. Please accept my apologies for the long winded reply, but this matter is not as simple as some would have the public to believe. Have a good day sir.

Respectfully,

Jerry D. Biggs
 

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