Campus Carry Bills 2017?

[cmhbob]

I did an article for the TCC paper on this. It's not going to happen any time soon. The regents are totally against the idea. I can't imagine the sea change that would need to occur for this to pass here. The system we've got (secured in certain motor vehicles, and special permission to carry on campus) is going to stay in place for now.

I would like to see the code changed to allow storage in motorcycles with locking storage. Right now, I technically am not allowed to secure the gun on my Goldwing. The code specifies that motorcycles are not considered motor vehicles for this portion.

 

[rawhide]

I did an article for the TCC paper on this. It's not going to happen any time soon. The regents are totally against the idea. I can't imagine the sea change that would need to occur for this to pass here. The system we've got (secured in certain motor vehicles, and special permission to carry on campus) is going to stay in place for now.

I would like to see the code changed to allow storage in motorcycles with locking storage. Right now, I technically am not allowed to secure the gun on my Goldwing. The code specifies that motorcycles are not considered motor vehicles for this portion.

Campus Carry was most likely a prime motivation for Boren successfully killing the Constitutional amendment last session. If it had passed, the regents would have had a tough time stopping campus carry.

 

[hrdware]

There are 2 different campus carry bills this session. SB380 and HB1600

 

[Dale00]

How did it pass in Texas? Did the board of regents there support it or was it passed over their objections?

 

[raeken45]

There are 2 different campus carry bills this session. SB380 and HB1600

Cool. Time to burn up the phone lines. Thanks!

 

[chuter]

Sounds like there's a lot of room for bs ways to effectively make it really hard to carry.

From the senate bill:

After consulting with students, staff and faculty of the
institution regarding the nature of the student population, specific
safety considerations and the uniqueness of the campus environment,
the president or other chief executive officer of the institution
shall establish reasonable rules, regulations and other provisions
regarding the carrying of concealed handguns by license holders on
the campus of the institution or on premises located on the campus
of the institution. The president or officer may not establish
provisions that generally prohibit or have the effect of generally
prohibiting license holders from carrying concealed handguns on the
campus of the institution. The president or officer may amend the
provisions as necessary for campus safety. The provisions will take
effect as determined by the president or other governing board under
paragraph 2 of this subsection. The institution must give effective
notice with respect to any portion of a premise on which license
holders may not carry a handgun.

From the house bill:

provided, however,
the person shall be prohibited from carrying the handgun into the
following places:
1. Any building or public area of a building on college or
university property that has adequate security measures. As used in
this paragraph, "adequate security measures" means the use of
electronic equipment and armed personnel at public entrances to
detect and restrict the carrying of weapons into the building
including, but not limited to, metal detectors, metal detector wands
or any other equipment used for similar purposes to ensure that
weapons are not carried into such building by members of the public;
or
2. Any building on college or university property that has a
restricted access entrance. As used in this paragraph, "restricted
access entrance" means an entrance that is restricted to the public
and requires a key, keycard, code or similar device to allow entry
to authorized personnel, students or faculty through the restricted
access entrance.
Req. No. 6556 Page 8

 

[raeken45]

If they'd just make it only a trespass misdemeanor to carry on campus it would be something.

 

[rawhide]

How did it pass in Texas? Did the board of regents there support it or was it passed over their objections?

Passed over their objections

 

[Dave70968]

The "restricted entry" bit raises an interesting question: what if it's only restricted part-time?

Go to the student union at OU at noon on a weekday, and the doors will be unlocked; go at midnight, and you need to swipe your ID. Are they "restricted" at noon? I maintain that they aren't.

Try to put access restrictions (or guards and magnetometers) at the entrances to, say, Dale Hall Tower, or the blender, during the academic year, and nobody will get to class on time.

 

[chuter]

If they decide a certain building is restricted, that means if you need to go in that building you can't carry your weapon on your way to and from the building, and if it's just one of many buildings you go to during the day, that pretty much means you can't carry all day.

Same for the "reasonable rules and regulations" in the senate bill.