Anybody notice that Chicago that has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country just went over 500 murders for 2012? Before Rahm Emanual starts lecturing others on gun control laws, he should probably clean up his own house. Why are people so idiotic to think making it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns will decrease the crime rate? I have not seen any published data that supports such a theory. Feinstein quoted the Washington post for her statistical proof that gun control works. Seriously? Not Harvard, not Yale...the Washington Post.
Okc is @ 99
Really? Is that up or down? I would assume based on our relatively healthy economy in the state, it may be slightly trending up, but not much. I would think economical factors would probably affect murder trends in cities more than anything. Just a guess though.
NYC, and DC have a higher crime rate than OKC.
Kinda makes that bumper sticker that says "if guns are made illegal, only criminals will have guns".
Kinda makes that bumper sticker that says "if guns are made illegal, only criminals will have guns".
Sacramento was in the upper 40's and lower 50's. We are shall issue and its down to the low 30's. Correlation does not imply causation, but its pretty obvious that violent crime(assault, armed robbery, rape, home invasions, etc.) goes up when the general public is unarmed.
15 cities in the United States that reported the most murders and non-negligent homicides in 2011(the top 3 are no surprise)
New York - 515
Chicago - 431
Detroit - 344
Philadelphia - 324
Los Angeles - 297
New Orleans - 200
Houston - 198
Baltimore - 196
Dallas - 133
Memphis - 117
Phoenix - 116
St. Louis - 113
Washington D.C. - 108
Kansas City, Mo. - 108
Oakland, Calif. - 104
15 cities in the United States that reported the most murders and non-negligent homicides in 2011(the top 3 are no surprise)
New York - 515
Chicago - 431
Detroit - 344
Philadelphia - 324
Los Angeles - 297
New Orleans - 200
Houston - 198
Baltimore - 196
Dallas - 133
Memphis - 117
Phoenix - 116
St. Louis - 113
Washington D.C. - 108
Kansas City, Mo. - 108
Oakland, Calif. - 104
Crime Rates are lower in NYC than OKC (581.7 to 927.5 for violent, and 1,674.8 to 5,816.6 for property, per 100,000 of population). Property crime rates are lower in DC as well, though their violent crime is significantly higher (1,241.1 and 4,510.0).
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
Those absolute numbers are far more likely correlated to the populations of the cities than any other factors. You need to look at rates per 100,000 of population.
I linked the rates earlier, and it includes the populations. You could plug all that into excel and run an correlation coefficient to see how closely linked the things are. Even assign some numerical value to firearms ownership and plug that in there as well.
I bet most of those murders in chicago are from the Chatham/ Englewood neighborhoods. Worst part of the City.
I agree that rates per 100k is a better measuring tool. If you look at Murders, here is the list re-ordered.
New Orleans 49.1
St. Louis 40.5
Baltimore 34.8
Detroit 34.5
Oakland 22.0
Washington D.C. 21.9
Kansas City, Mo. 21.2
Philadelphia 19.6
Chicago 15.2
Memphis 13.2
Houston 11.8
Dallas 11.3
Los Angeles 7.6
Phoenix 7.6
New York 6.4
Numbers are from http://www.city-data.com/crime/
New Orleans 49.1
St. Louis 40.5
Baltimore 34.8
Detroit 34.5
Oakland 22.0
Washington D.C. 21.9
Kansas City, Mo. 21.2
Philadelphia 19.6
Chicago 15.2
Memphis 13.2
Houston 11.8
Dallas 11.3
Los Angeles 7.6
Phoenix 7.6
New York 6.4
Numbers are from http://www.city-data.com/crime/
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