CNN = fake news and gets caught at it.

[Glocktogo]

Fortunately, the Founding Fathers disagreed with you as to their value.

Fortunately, the Founding Fathers aren't around to see what an absolute disgrace they've become.

 

[Dave70968]

I think the definition of Journalism is a far cry from what the founding fathers dreamed of. I know they had rabble rouser storytellers back in the day to save you a search and post.
CNN and others are strictly news readers and commentators. They rarely go out in the field and do any journalism type work.
The schools of journalism hold tight standards to their students. What happens to them after they get out to chase the almighty dollar, and give up their soul in exchange for it is anybody's guess.

Actually, that pursuit of profit is their motivation to get things right. With the internet bringing a printing press into everybody's home, bad information is rapidly exposed and the proof disseminated (Exhibit A: Dan Rather; Exhibit B: the UVA rape case; I could go on indefinitely). Media outlets are on notice that "the whole world is watching," and there are enough of us with our eyes open that we'll find the errors and inconsistencies...and point them out, in public and embarrassing ways. They can't just hide their mistakes (or outright fabrications) and survive on obscurity, because obscurity is gone. Their brands depend upon being seen as credible; when they lose that, they lose big. Maybe not existential-level failure, but certainly loss. Their only means of dealing with that effectively is to be transparent in how they deal with it...which is why we get high-profile firings that are publicly disclosed, as in this case. CNN didn't just get rid of some sloppy reporters, it made a show of doing so to reassure the world that it took credibility seriously, and to make an example of them for its other reporters (who are similarly in a position to harm its reputation).

As to the idea that the media was somehow less biased in colonial times...wow. No, if anything, the media was more biased, and quite blatant about it. In some ways, that's better--when the press is up front about its bias, you can look at the story through the appropriate lens. It's the allegedly "unbiased" or "neutral" or "balanced" press that's scary: there's really no such thing, but if people believe it is, they accept it uncritically.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Actually, that pursuit of profit is their motivation to get things right. With the internet bringing a printing press into everybody's home, bad information is rapidly exposed and the proof disseminated (Exhibit A: Dan Rather; Exhibit B: the UVA rape case; I could go on indefinitely). Media outlets are on notice that "the whole world is watching," and there are enough of us with our eyes open that we'll find the errors and inconsistencies...and point them out, in public and embarrassing ways. They can't just hide their mistakes (or outright fabrications) and survive on obscurity, because obscurity is gone. Their brands depend upon being seen as credible; when they lose that, they lose big. Maybe not existential-level failure, but certainly loss. Their only means of dealing with that effectively is to be transparent in how they deal with it...which is why we get high-profile firings that are publicly disclosed, as in this case. CNN didn't just get rid of some sloppy reporters, it made a show of doing so to reassure the world that it took credibility seriously, and to make an example of them for its other reporters (who are similarly in a position to harm its reputation).

As to the idea that the media was somehow less biased in colonial times...wow. No, if anything, the media was more biased, and quite blatant about it. In some ways, that's better--when the press is up front about its bias, you can look at the story through the appropriate lens. It's the allegedly "unbiased" or "neutral" or "balanced" press that's scary: there's really no such thing, but if people believe it is, they accept it uncritically.

When Trump said he was going to Make America Great Again, he didn't clarify that this is the "Great" he was talking about.

 

[RugersGR8]

When Trump said he was going to Make America Great Again, he didn't clarify that this is the "Great" he was talking about.

"We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008

I will take Trump's pledge over Obama's pledge(Obama never clarified his "fundamental transformation of the United States" until after he got us into this 8yr. fiasco/debacle) any day of the week.

 

[RugersGR8]

JUST OUT:



CNN Producer: Voters "Stupid as Sh*t"– American Pravda: CNN Part 3
veritasvisuals
Published on Jun 30, 2017

 

[dennishoddy]

JUST OUT:



CNN Producer: Voters "Stupid as Sh*t"– American Pravda: CNN Part 3
veritasvisuals
Published on Jun 30, 2017

CNN Even called their own audience stupid. What a debacle of journalistic malpractice.
That's the very reason nobody watches them anymore.

 

[RugersGR8]

JUST OUT:



CNN Producer: Voters "Stupid as Sh*t"– American Pravda: CNN Part 3
veritasvisuals
Published on Jun 30, 2017

CNN Even called their own audience stupid. What a debacle of journalistic malpractice.
That's the very reason nobody watches them anymore.

'Obamacare architect' Jonathan Gruber

It would seem that most lib dems(their elites, their MSM, their trolls, etc.) all have the same stock/DNC-talking-point-issued opinion of anyone/everyone that isn't one of them(lib dem).

 

[Glocktogo]

Actually, that pursuit of profit is their motivation to get things right. With the internet bringing a printing press into everybody's home, bad information is rapidly exposed and the proof disseminated (Exhibit A: Dan Rather; Exhibit B: the UVA rape case; I could go on indefinitely). Media outlets are on notice that "the whole world is watching," and there are enough of us with our eyes open that we'll find the errors and inconsistencies...and point them out, in public and embarrassing ways. They can't just hide their mistakes (or outright fabrications) and survive on obscurity, because obscurity is gone. Their brands depend upon being seen as credible; when they lose that, they lose big. Maybe not existential-level failure, but certainly loss. Their only means of dealing with that effectively is to be transparent in how they deal with it...which is why we get high-profile firings that are publicly disclosed, as in this case. CNN didn't just get rid of some sloppy reporters, it made a show of doing so to reassure the world that it took credibility seriously, and to make an example of them for its other reporters (who are similarly in a position to harm its reputation).

As to the idea that the media was somehow less biased in colonial times...wow. No, if anything, the media was more biased, and quite blatant about it. In some ways, that's better--when the press is up front about its bias, you can look at the story through the appropriate lens. It's the allegedly "unbiased" or "neutral" or "balanced" press that's scary: there's really no such thing, but if people believe it is, they accept it uncritically.

You sound so naive here. The media is NOT admitting to their blatant bias, they're doing baseline damage control so they can continue being blatantly biased while pretending they're not! If you believe otherwise, I feel for you.

 

[Dave70968]

You sound so naive here. The media is NOT admitting to their blatant bias, they're doing baseline damage control so they can continue being blatantly biased while pretending they're not! If you believe otherwise, I feel for you.

From another (contemporaneous) thread:

What's going to happen down the road, I hope, is that the media gets smacked in the mouth by the public that uses them as a news source. When they continue to lose credibility, like they already have, with having to retract the lies and falsehoods they have been frothing at the mouth about since last November almost daily recently, one would think the loss of viewers and negative feedback from the public would reshape their style of reporting.
The main stream media today has the same credibility as Alex Jones.

 

[RugersGR8]

Hypocrisy, double standards, is alive and well at NBC/MSNBC.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...s-rise-conservative-media-polarized-nation-no
NBC Decries Rise of Conservative Media for Creating Polarized Country, No Mention of MSNBC
By Nicholas Fondacaro | July 2, 2017 11:06 AM EDT