I listened to this podcast yesterday. The one I listened to was a "roundtable" version, where the interview was watched by an audience of Dr. Phil, then an interview process was done. I couldn't find the video version of the audience segment but have included the whole episode from youtube. The interview itself is an hour long and the "roundtable" version is 2 hours. I like long version formats and have plenty of time listening to them while working. Not sure if DT could get over retribution, lol.
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