I’ve used the same Gatco sharpening system for 30+ years and take all my knives down to the “extra sharp” stone, what grit that is I do not know. Kitchen and fillet knives get an 18° bevel and pocket/camp knives get a 22° bevel. I shave with a straight razor from time to time when I’m feeling manly and that I sharpen to a 5000 grit (whetstone). Everything sees the canvas then leather strop and will shave the hair off the back of my hand.