Is anyone else getting tired of this crap ?

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I sympathize with George Floyd and his family, and hope they get what they deserve, understanding that two of those officers were in there first week on the job so maybe that should be taken into account.

But, I'm really getting sick and tired of the demonstrations in general and totally fed up with the terrorists.

I keep wondering why there have not been organized rallies to counteract the ridiculous ongoing garbage we have been forced to watch and our police organizations and national guard have had to deal with.

Why haven't responsible citizens groups formed up across the street from these anti-protests to show support ? Why haven't groups of citizens formed in the areas where the businesses of good citizens have been ravaged and destroyed to help them defend their properties ?

And you have got to love this "defund the police" BS ! I certainly hope places like LA and the idiot Garcetti are successful because it will completely destroy those nests of socialists and losers and we won't have to deal with them any more. This whole mess should get rid of some of the leftist democrats in those kind of places.

Does anyone know of anywhere that these types of resistance have been put up to counteract any of the silliness being played out day after day ?
 
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While I’m just as tired of this as the next person, we can’t just go back to where we were. There is racism, of all kinds, and there probably will always be examples that come to light occasionally. There are LEOs that should not be employed, and probably should be charged with various crimes, just like every other profession.

The protests have been effective, until many of them became destructive and violent. Some of that probably was caused by parties not associated with the original complaints.

Their right to protest is just as valid as our right to own firearms. Imagine how close some of our protests have come to being hijacked by outside groups. I don’t know that it has happened, but the potential is there.

I know through this I have been reminded of times when I would see a black kid, wearing his hoodie, outside his a 7-11, and the thought goes through my mind of a potential robbery.

But, they are now running the risk of losing the support.
 

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While I’m just as tired of this as the next person, we can’t just go back to where we were. There is racism, of all kinds, and there probably will always be examples that come to light occasionally. There are LEOs that should not be employed, and probably should be charged with various crimes, just like every other profession.

The protests have been effective, until many of them became destructive and violent. Some of that probably was caused by parties not associated with the original complaints.

Their right to protest is just as valid as our right to own firearms. Imagine how close some of our protests have come to being hijacked by outside groups. I don’t know that it has happened, but the potential is there.

I know through this I have been reminded of times when I would see a black kid, wearing his hoodie, outside his a 7-11, and the thought goes through my mind of a potential robbery.

But, they are now running the risk of losing the support.

What have the protests been effective about ? And how many protests were there before the violence broke out ? The very first one had violence and looting in Minneapolis !

There is a reason a black kid, wearing his hoodie makes you nervous. Blacks are arrested two and a half times as often as a white kid. And two and a half times as many blacks are in prison as whites. The left would like you to believe that they are profiled and that is why. I'm guessing that there might be some of that, but I'm also guessing that maybe it is because the blacks are guilty close to two and a half times as often as whites.

Watch episodes of cops or real police or other shows like that and see how many times the perpetrator is black and how many are white.
 

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This 'defund the police' movement is crazy and scary. Minneapolis city council is getting serious about "dismantling" the police.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...inneapolis-city-council-president-pd-n2570101

I don't hear from BLM that there are good police, just white privileged bad police. This bothers me.

But yeah, it's wearing on me.....a lot.
Well, they don't need a police department in Minneapolis because Sharia law is already in place in many parts of that area. The police are not allowed in those areas already.
 
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Yeah I'm tired of it. I'm just of a different viewpoint on the cause and effect. Last night I watched an elderly man (70's) get pushed by a cop in full riot gear, hard enough that he fell back, smacked his head on the concrete so hard the sound was sickening and instantly, blood started pouring out of his ear. No the man was not rioting or being violent, he was just in the way of what the cops wanted to do. No one behind him was being violent either. The first person they arrested was a man who tried to come to his aid. Fortunately, they couldn't arrest the National Guard troops who jumped in to provide 1st aid. That man is in the hospital, most likely with a TBI. The PD’s response? “He tripped”

The night before I watched Austin PD riot cops shoot a teenager in the head with a less-lethal projectile (against policy). He crumpled to the ground instantly, and is in critical condition in the hospital. His crime? Standing on a hill across the street, all alone, doing absolutely nothing except watching the protests.

The night before that I watched cops pepper ball a car being driven by a man taking his pregnant wife to the hospital because she was in labor. When he tried to explain his situation to them, they pepper balled him.

My point is nothing has been settled yet. The cops aren't taking responsibility for their actions. The agencies aren't taking responsibility for their actions. The civilian authorities aren’t taking responsibility for it and the various legislatures aren’t either. Each and every day since these events kicked off, cops have been committing outright violent crimes. Chasing down cyclists to beat them. Dragging them behind buildings for a beat-down away from the cameras (didn’t work), shooting non-violent protesters in the face with rubber bullets, and on and on ad nauseam.

There are agitators and criminals in these events that deserve arrest and in some cases, a bit of the old hickory shampoo. But the aggression many riot officers are visiting on peaceful protesters for perpetrating the heinous crime of civil disobedience is startling. In many cases, the cops are the ones starting the riots! I can’t abide by this. I can’t reconcile it with my 30+ years of training and public service. It’s offensive to me on a deep level.

The media also isn’t reporting how many officers are resigning. The good cops can’t get anywhere against the hardcore authoritarians in their ranks, so they’re leaving. That will objectively make those departments worse, not better.

This isn’t a race issue regardless of what the media is pushing. This is a dystopian statist nightmare that is being revealed to affect anyone who stands in their way. That means us as much as them. Wasn’t it just a few weeks ago we were protesting the murder of Duncan Lemp in his home? What about all those 2nd Amendment protests? Were we just concerned with our cherished gun rights and to hell with the rest of them?

Well imagine this. Take all those thousands and tens of thousands of 2nd Amendment protesters who marched with arms and equipment on state capitols, and apply them to these protests. Think all those looters and rioters would loot and riot with ten thousand armed patriots on every street corner and sidewalk? Think all these cops in riot gear would be beating and shooting PEACEFUL protesters with less-lethal munitions if half the crowd had arms and equipment equal to or superior to theirs?

This could be the Battle of Athens in our time. This could be the turning point where we take back our authority as We the People. Because you can damned sure bet these same officers beating and shooting people for the crime of disrespecting their authority, will be the same ones kicking your doors in the middle of the night to take your arms.

Just think about it…
 
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This 'defund the police' movement is crazy and scary. Minneapolis city council is getting serious about "dismantling" the police.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...inneapolis-city-council-president-pd-n2570101

I don't hear from BLM that there are good police, just white privileged bad police. This bothers me.

But yeah, it's wearing on me.....a lot.

Yep - my concern about defunded the police in those cesspools will cause an exodus of liberals to infect other cities and states.
 

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Yeah I'm tired of it. I'm just of a different viewpoint on the cause and effect. Last night I watched an elderly man (70's) get pushed by a cop in full riot gear, hard enough that he fell back, smacked his head on the concrete so hard the sound was sickening and instantly, blood started pouring out of his ear. No the man was not rioting or being violent, he was just in the way of what the cops wanted to do. No one behind him was being violent either. The first person they arrested was a man who tried to come to his aid. Fortunately, they couldn't arrest the National Guard troops who jumped in to provide 1st aid. That man is in the hospital, most likely with a TBI. The PD’s response? “He tripped”
I saw that incident. He was told to move and didn't, so they pushed him like others. Can you post something that substantiates all of the rest of your accusations because the one I saw and read didn't show much of your story. You act like you think it was intentional to hurt that man... I don't think it was.

But I'd love to see a video that shows them arrest someone who helped the man (I saw someone help him but he as not arrested) and I never heard them say "he tripped" but actually he did trip so what's the matter with that ? I think maybe you are somewhat left leaning …. but that's your right.
 

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I'm tired of it. Ready to move on. I really hate the politics of it. Right and wrong shouldn't have a political bias. You can support the good on both sides while condemning the bad on both sides. It's not us vs them, it's not good vs evil, it's not blue vs black, it's not picking one side or the other. It's right vs wrong.
 

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