Keep an eye on whats going on in Virginia.

[RickN]

That’s my point. He took it for granted and so did a lot of republican voters. I imagine the same thing happened in Virginia for a lot of those state seats.

Agreed. Far to many Republicans think they are safe or that their vote does not matter. It does matter and you are never safe. Many of us will carry 2 guns, a knife and several mags all to stay safe, but will not take the time to try and save their right to do that. I can not go stand in line to vote, but I can vote absentee and do it every election now matter how small.

Only thing I would love to find is a good rating site to see how conservative Oklahoma judges are. I really do not want to keep one with a history of letting criminals off with a slap on the wrist, or vote out one that puts the worst behind bars for a long time.

 

[PJM]

The issue is not whether they could have done something before. The point is what can WE do now. Because if we think because we are here in OK that we are not affected by this, WE ARE WRONG! What they do in Virginia and what the Virginians do in response is a roadmap of what WIL happen here and in Texas, and in Missouri, and in Alabama, and in Georgia and in etc etc. We can either sit here and armchair quarterback the situation or resolve ourselves to act in support of these folks. If all we can do is say "they should have done this" or "they should have done that" then we have nobody to blame but ourselves when the DSA/dnc gun grabbing Gestapo comes knocking on our own doors. It is the time to speak out and take a stand.

 

[dennishoddy]

That’s my point. He took it for granted and so did a lot of republican voters. I imagine the same thing happened in Virginia for a lot of those state seats.

Of course the gerrymandering done prior to the election by the dimocrats had absolutely nothing to do with it. Virginia will never be red or even purple again if 100% of Republican voters get to the polls because of it.
As another update to this thread, the Governor has increased the budget of the Department of Corrections in anticipation of increased arrests and incarcerations.

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is not even trying to disguise what he is doing anymore.

Northam, who somehow escaped a “blackface” scandal (probably because Democrats get special dispensation in these matters), along with anti-gun Democrat allies in the Virginia General Assembly, have passed a series of gun-control measures that many in the state believe will lead to confiscation of firearms.

With help from anti-gun zealot Michael Bloomberg’s group, Everytown for Gun Safety, Democrats took control of the Virginia House last November, and have wasted no time implementing Bloomberg’s agenda in the Commonwealth. Everytown contributed over $1.5 million dollars to Virginia Democrats during that election cycle.

LET has reported over the past few weeks that gun owners in Virginia, along with some law enforcement officials have become increasingly concerned that these series of laws are in essence a run on the Second Amendment. An overwhelming majority of counties in Virginia have declared themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries.”

In response, Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring said that the resolutions establishing sanctuaries were “part of an effort by the gun lobby to stoke fear,” and added that the resolutions “have no legal effect.”

A Democrat lawmaker told the Washington Examiner that Northam might cut off state funds to counties that do not comply with the gun laws and suggested that he could call out the National Guard to enforce the gun laws.

However, a spokesman for Northam, Alena Yarmosky downplayed that, saying that he had “absolutely no plans to call in the National Guard.”

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...on-for-arrests-of-gun-owners-police-officers/

It appears they are serious about confiscation.

 

[chuter]

Here's a vid on the budget from Guns & Gadgets, with a pic of the paragraph from the budget.
It specifically says the increase in the budget is for sentencing for gun related crimes.

The pic is about 1:30

 

[SMS]

"Enforce existing law" has been our mantra for a long time right? So increasing funding to do that is bad? Sure, we can assign some conspiratorial context to it as well. Maybe they're using abandoned Walmarts and buying body bags too?

Gerrymandering is definitely a factor, but Republicans complaining about Dems doing that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Let's see what the legislature actually tries to do.

 

[chuter]

"Enforce existing law" has been our mantra for a long time right? So increasing funding to do that is bad? Sure, we can assign some conspiratorial context to it as well. Maybe they're using abandoned Walmarts and buying body bags too?

Gerrymandering is definitely a factor, but Republicans complaining about Dems doing that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Let's see what the legislature actually tries to do.

I think you're right about the walmarts, all those cars out front and all.
And just because they specifically put it in writing in the budget, must be right wing conspiracies, applying any real weight to that.
Probably just some intern in their legislature making stuff up to piss off the gun nuts. /SARCASM

Edit: It sounds like you're saying let's wait till it's passed to see what's in it.
And not getting upset when red flags are popping up everywhere sounds like what you were speaking against in an earlier post.

 

[tRidiot]

Maybe a mass exodus of hard working tax-contributing Virginians to other states would get the message across? I don't think they're going to have a million people bail, though, and that's about what it would take to get anyone's real attention.

 

[dennishoddy]

"Enforce existing law" has been our mantra for a long time right? So increasing funding to do that is bad? Sure, we can assign some conspiratorial context to it as well. Maybe they're using abandoned Walmarts and buying body bags too?

Gerrymandering is definitely a factor, but Republicans complaining about Dems doing that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Let's see what the legislature actually tries to do.

Geeze, do you even think about what your posting? If Virginia says turn in your gun in the legislature which it will, your ok with it because we say to "enforce existing law" when 99.9% of the time on OSA that refers to the government taking away our rights? If Virginia passes a law to turn in your guns, your OK with that because they can now "enforce existing law"?
The demon craps gerrymandered the voting districts to make Virginia into a blue state forever, initiated the budget to increase money to the corrections department for incarcerating law abiding citizens abiding by their 2A rights, and promising to take away the guns of its citizens seems to be ok with you because you incur some BS about some old walmart conspiracy?
Help me out on this one please.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Maybe a mass exodus of hard working tax-contributing Virginians to other states would get the message across? I don't think they're going to have a million people bail, though, and that's about what it would take to get anyone's real attention.

One high salaried gun owner leaving Virginia will have little effect on the number of voters, but as for the lost revenue to the state, it would have a significant effect. Depending on the tax rates, one high salaried person leaving the state would amount to the loss of revenue to the state equal to several low salaried persons. To directly effect the vote, many gun owners would have to move on. That said however; money talks. When tax revenues decline and the legislators figure out why, then things might improve.

Woody

 

[tRidiot]

One high salaried gun owner leaving Virginia will have little effect on the number of voters, but as for the lost revenue to the state, it would have a significant effect. Depending on the tax rates, one high salaried person leaving the state would amount to the loss of revenue to the state equal to several low salaried persons. To directly effect the vote, many gun owners would have to move on. That said however; money talks. When tax revenues decline and the legislators figure out why, then things might improve.

Woody

Remember, this is now a Democrat-controlled state... when tax revenues decline, they have a surefire way (in their minds) to always be able to raise more money. It's a simple matter of adjusting tax rates on those 'rich folks' who don't pay their 'fair share'.