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I've learned what they say is true, those who talk the most (about political schit) and have the strongest opinions, know the least. Those who know the most say nothing. lol
Now yall carry on the hoopla
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.


Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
So what say ye'? Is this what we are waiting for?
DSA/dnc IS the enemy. Want proof, just look at California and watch Virginia.
 

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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.


Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

So what say ye'? Is this what we are waiting for?
DSA/dnc IS the enemy. Want proof, just look at California and watch Virginia.
The fact is, this legislative seasion hasnt even begun. Bills will be blocked in commities, reworded to have an entirely diferent meaning or otherwise change in ways so that its no real big deal at all. Big deal meaning there wont be any confiscation or bans of anything. The red flag laws being introduced are the ones I see making it through after being shrunk down so tight they are really meaningless.

Same crap happens every year here in good ol Oklahoma and its funny because no one lifts an eyebrow when its a restriction of your other rights, only the gun laws draw any real attention.
 
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The fact is, this legislative seasion hasnt even begun. Bills will be blocked in commities, reworded to have an entirely diferent meaning or otherwise change in ways so that its no real big deal at all. Big deal meaning there wont be any confiscation or bans of anything. The red flag laws being introduced are the ones I see making it through after being shrunk down so tight they are really meaningless.

Same crap happens every year here in good ol Oklahoma and its funny because no one lifts an eyebrow when its a restriction of your other rights, only the gun laws draw any real attention.

This is how the Overton Window works.

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I'm sorry
My level of expertise on that is way below yours...
Wtf is the overton window?

The Overton Window is a process whereby a person or group introduces something like gun confiscation, campaigns for it, pushes for it, gets some public support but not enough to get it passed and then "compromises" with the opposition and gets something passed that is less than the original goal - maybe background checks, or registration - that ends up being a step toward their goal.

Then they rinse and repeat over time, and, step by step, sometimes make it to their goal, and only the alert and astute realize they have been had. The good thing about this process is that both sides can play it and lost freedom and liberty can be regained. It's not limited to the example I used that we are so familiar with. It could involve taxation, welfare, suffrage, or any other aspect of our lives.

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The fact is, this legislative seasion hasnt even begun. Bills will be blocked in commities, reworded to have an entirely diferent meaning or otherwise change in ways so that its no real big deal at all. Big deal meaning there wont be any confiscation or bans of anything. The red flag laws being introduced are the ones I see making it through after being shrunk down so tight they are really meaningless.

Same crap happens every year here in good ol Oklahoma and its funny because no one lifts an eyebrow when its a restriction of your other rights, only the gun laws draw any real attention.

We know this. Most of the the legislators that are mouthing this stuff haven't even been sworn in yet.
The issue we are discussing is the agenda that those coming up for this legislative session are putting out in public because they hold the majority in the house and senate of Virginia. They CAN pass these draconian laws because they hold the majority no matter they are in violation of our Constitution.
It's nowhere near the frivolous votes in the Oklahoma legislature that the liberals put up knowing they won't pass because they are pandering to their voters to have talking points in the next election.
Virginia on the other hand will likely have a legal to them vote to confiscate firearms, and the rest of the country is standing by to see how far they will go, with the Governor already saying he is hiring thugs to go house to house and increased the budget of the corrections system to incarcerate those that don't comply.
This is a BIG DEAL.
 

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