More guns = less crime in 2013

[RugersGR8]

IMHO, the Obama regime will try to take credit for the crime rate going down(nothing that they had anything to do with--more people owning guns did make a difference). Why don't they take credit for things that they are actually responsible for like Benghazi, rise of terrorist activities, the deaths of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and all of those citizens of Mexico who were killed with Fast & Furious guns, US poor economy, US poor foreign relations, the fall of US prestige on the world stage, etc.,etc.


http://www.ijreview.com/2014/11/200671-fbi-now-know-record-numbers-gun-sales-means-gun-crimes-america/
FBI Drops Truth-Bomb on Gun Control Advocates: Firearms Numbers at Record Levels & Violent Crime Decreases
By Charles Samuel (13 hours ago) |Nation, Politics

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/10/FBI-Report-Confirms-Crime-Fell-While-Gun-Purchases-Soared-In-2013
FBI Report Confirms Crime Fell While Gun Purchases Soared in 2013
by AWR Hawkins 10 Nov 2014

 

[YukonGlocker]

There may be a correlation between crime rate and gun purchases, but that doesn't mean one caused the other. It could be that the gun scare caused gun purchases to soar while something entirely different caused crime rates to drop (e.g., people simply reported less; police departments downsized and arrested less). I'm not saying any of these are the case, but with the limited data available, we don't know what's causing what here.

 

[neginfluence04]

did you see there were no murders in New Town Conn.?

 

[neginfluence04]

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...by_connecticut_by_city_2012.xls#disablemobile

 

[mugsy]

I agree with YukonGlocker, the data does not support a conclusion that more guns = less crime. However, at least on the face of it, it suggests that more guns do not cause more violent crime which by itself up-ends a tenet of faith to the anti-2A folks. I suspect (not know) that there is some kind of correlation between legal gun ownership and lower crime rates but that is an unproven hypothesis. Hopefully, someone working on a PhD or another book (John Lott, Jr.) would do an in-depth analysis on that.

 

[RugersGR8]

While there may be no direct correlation(studies) between rise in gun purchases and the decrease in the crime rate, we also have not seen the blood in the streets, dead bodies everywhere, carnage beyond belief, etc.,etc., etc., etc. that the lib dem gun grabbers/haters predicted every time that concealed carry, the sunset of the assault weapons ban, etc. has been discussed either.

 

[RugersGR8]

OOPS, SORRY ABOUT THAT---From the "Land of Obama" and other sources:




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry applications surge
City sees fewer homicides, robberies, burglaries, car thefts as Illinois residents take arms
By Kelly Riddell - The Washington Times - Sunday, August 24, 2014

..."Since Illinois started granting concealed carry permits this year, the number of robberies that have led to arrests in Chicago has declined 20 percent from last year, according to police department statistics. Reports of burglary and motor vehicle theft are down 20 percent and 26 percent, respectively. In the first quarter, the city’s homicide rate was at a 56-year low."...

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/09/murder-drops-as-concealed-carry-permits-rise-claims-study/
Murder rate drops as concealed carry permits rise, study claims
Published July 09, 2014
FoxNews.com

..."The study by the Crime Prevention Research Center found that 11.1 million Americans now have permits to carry concealed weapons, up from 4.5 million in 2007. The 146 percent increase has come even as both murder and violent crime rates have dropped by 22 percent."...

 

[RugersGR8]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/09/murder-drops-as-concealed-carry-permits-rise-claims-study/
Info from the FOX link above that describes what happens when law abiding citizens practice their Constitutional Right of concealed carry and thugs/criminals take notice of that fact:

“Some criminals stop committing crimes, others move on to crimes in which they don’t come into contact with victims and others actually move to areas where they have less fear of being confronted by armed victims.”- John R. Lott, Crime Prevention Research Center

 

[YukonGlocker]

Stumbled upon this today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-a-central-thesis-of-the-gun-rights-movement/. I haven't read the original article yet.

 

[Big_McLargehuge]

FTA: Donohue notes that "different statistical models can yield different estimated effects, and our ability to ascertain the best model is imperfect."

What was that old quote? Oh yeah; "There's lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics."