what was the name of firearm? Can't for the life of me remember what it was called.
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Those Serbu Super Shorty ones? AOW?
Hmmm these things.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/26/14-mossberg-non-nfa-scattergun/
I never understood 'em but to each their own
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/26/14-mossberg-non-nfa-scattergun/
I never understood 'em but to each their own
Not the serbu. This had a 14 inch barrel. And a shaved grip. Not a pistol grip though.
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Hmmm these things.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/26/14-mossberg-non-nfa-scattergun/
I never understood 'em but to each their own
Yeah.... That's the one. Thanks sir.
Remember a price on these little guys?
Nah, they've never appealed to me so never looked.
You might do some research on it. I don't believe they are legal under Oklahoma statutes. Title 21 only goes by barrel length so it doesn't carry the ATF loophole at the state level.
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Here is the text from Title 21. If the ATF classified it as a SBS or AOW and you had the proper paperwork, it would be compliant.
§21-1289.18. Definitions.
DEFINITIONS
A. “Sawed-off shotgun” shall mean any firearm capable of discharging a series of projectiles of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, with a barrel or barrels less than eighteen (18) inches in length, and using either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion.
B. “Sawed-off rifle” shall mean any rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than sixteen (16) inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches in length, including the stock portion.
C. Every person who has in his possession or under his immediate control a sawed-off shotgun or a sawed-off rifle, whether concealed or not, shall upon conviction be guilty of a felony for the possession of such device, and shall be punishable by a fine not to exceed One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for a period not to exceed two (2) years, or both such fine and imprisonment.
D. It is a defense to prosecution under this section, if the approved application form that authorized the making or transfer of the particular firearm to the defendant, which indicates the registration of the firearm to said defendant pursuant to the National Firearm's Act, is introduced.
Added by Laws 1981, c. 155, § 2. Amended by Laws 1986, c. 240, § 3, eff. Nov. 1, 1986; Laws 1997, c. 133, § 331, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 5, § 225, eff. July 1, 1999.
NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 331 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.
Edit:
Here is the text from Title 21. If the ATF classified it as a SBS or AOW and you had the proper paperwork, it would be compliant.
§21-1289.18. Definitions.
DEFINITIONS
A. “Sawed-off shotgun” shall mean any firearm capable of discharging a series of projectiles of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, with a barrel or barrels less than eighteen (18) inches in length, and using either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion.
B. “Sawed-off rifle” shall mean any rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than sixteen (16) inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches in length, including the stock portion.
C. Every person who has in his possession or under his immediate control a sawed-off shotgun or a sawed-off rifle, whether concealed or not, shall upon conviction be guilty of a felony for the possession of such device, and shall be punishable by a fine not to exceed One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for a period not to exceed two (2) years, or both such fine and imprisonment.
D. It is a defense to prosecution under this section, if the approved application form that authorized the making or transfer of the particular firearm to the defendant, which indicates the registration of the firearm to said defendant pursuant to the National Firearm's Act, is introduced.
Added by Laws 1981, c. 155, § 2. Amended by Laws 1986, c. 240, § 3, eff. Nov. 1, 1986; Laws 1997, c. 133, § 331, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 5, § 225, eff. July 1, 1999.
NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 331 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.
Yes, but it is my understanding that since these were never built as a shotgun... Meaning they never had a stock attached..... They are considered in a pistol category. Since they exceed 26.5 in length they are not considered AOW, or SBS.
The catch is the OK definition of Shotgun is less lax than that of the federal government...
The loophole in the government one is they add length requirements to it where as OK does not. Thats how I'm reading the post.
The loophole in the government one is they add length requirements to it where as OK does not. Thats how I'm reading the post.
Exactly!
Would it get prosecuted, I doubt it. As loose as it is written, a .45 LC/.410 Judge would be in violation because it says "capable of" instead of "designed to". And there are rimfire and pistol caliber shotshells. But none of these would draw the attention of that shotgun.
That said, I question the value of such a firearm. Put a stock on it and it changes everything though!
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