Need some help with possible collector interest & values for 1863 C.W. Musket marked W. mason, WWI SMLE III*, Martini Henry, S.A. 1884 trapdoor

[YukonXL]

Not sure where to post this request for assistance with these old rifles and/or if this is appropriate here…. Please remove if not applicable here.

Attached are pictures of the listed old war rifles as listed in title. All are in at least good condition A couple are in very good to excellent condition. I am mostly interested in learning each of the rifles current popularity and potential value on market. I do plan to sell these once I’ve learned more about each.

Thanks for lookin…

 

[okcBob]

Assuming all are original & not refinished & without provenance:
Enfield go for around 800
Trap doors around 1100 , lot more if carbine.
1863 Springfield musket around 2000
Other one, unsure

 

[WoodsCraft]

Assuming all are original & not refinished & without provenance:
Enfield go for around 800
Trap doors around 1100 , lot more if carbine.
1863 Springfield musket around 2000
Other one, unsure

On the trapdoor it DEPENDS , I've purchased them well below 1100 and not on the fluke occassion. There are a lot of factors which determine the value of a trapdoor.

OP if you want help specifically with your trapdoor reach out to me, I have around 30 years of trapdoor collecting under my belt . The stock on yours almost looks refinished but that could be your photo . I am happy to help in any event.

Keep in mind that they are far from rare rifles just as an FYI and gunshow prices are often inflated for the given condition and lineage of the rifles.

 

[YukonXL]

Assuming all are original & not refinished & without provenance:
Enfield go for around 800
Trap doors around 1100 , lot more if carbine.
1863 Springfield musket around 2000
Other one, unsure

Thank you for the replies. I understand what you offering and agree.
These are very nice old rifles.
I’m sure the martini Henry and 1863 musket have been cleaned.
The trapdoor and SMLE appear original.

I will reach out for more info.

Thanks

 

[Rez Exelon]

For what it's worth, here's an interesting sheet I found on production numbers. And a picture of my trappy. As far as I can tell it's a carbine missing the saddle bar, or loop or whatever, and has had a recoil pad added. I traded for it back in the day for about 800 which may have been high but it was a friend and I liked it. I shoot it fairly regularly too and it packs a kick.

 

[JEVapa]

Martini Henrys are all over the place. First, figure out if its a Khyber Pass gun...if it is, then $100 ish.
If it's real, find out where its from. That will determine it's pricing. They will be from $500 and up depending on the origin (Nepal, Britain, Rebuilds/originals, Provenance in wars, etc). Most hang out at the $800 mark. Agree with @WoodsCraft and the MH will be in the trapdoor range. There are a lot of fakes with these guns so it requires someone with knowledge of proofs and marks. Hindu Kush gunmakers are really good.

Add - about 20% of all US servicemen in Afghanistan brought KB guns back into the states. so there's that. 20 years worth.

 

[YukonXL]

Martini Henrys are all over the place. First, figure out if its a Khyber Pass gun...if it is, then $100 ish.
If it's real, find out where its from. That will determine it's pricing. They will be from $500 and up depending on the origin (Nepal, Britain, Rebuilds/originals, Provenance in wars, etc). Most hang out at the $800 mark. Agree with @WoodsCraft and the MH will be in the trapdoor range. There are a lot of fakes with these guns so it requires someone with knowledge of proofs and marks. Hindu Kush gunmakers are really good.

Add - about 20% of all US servicemen in Afghanistan brought KB guns back into the states. so there's that. 20 years worth.

Thanks for the information, I’m really out of my element on the Martini Henry. I’m attaching a picture of receiver with silver pencil over the Gov markings. Let me know what you think after review. The bore is actually pretty good…
Looks to be 1888 mfg

Thanks

 

[JEVapa]

It's pretty rough. Can't really see the crown. The serial number looks like something that was added later in life or in an armory or something. The number on the stock looks like a rack number. Half to see the proofs on the barrel or any other crowns.

Chamber and bore?

 

[JEVapa]

I'm thinking it might be a Nepali gun, but need to see the rest of the proofs.

 

[YukonXL]

Thanks for your comments on the Martini Henry. I agree it has been rode hard during service or storage in high humidity anyway… The bore is dark but lands and grooves are there. Actually I’ve seen worse but it’s not great like the trapdoor Springfield.

stock is solid action works, neat old battle rifle.

Thanks and please do let me know what price is reasonable for this old rifle?