OKC police officer slams old guy unconscious

[dennishoddy]

This is not over. If this is determined to be a Federal Civil Rights Violation then the US DOJ can strip the officer of his Qualified Immunity.

There can also be a Civil lawsuit brought on by the family.

Just because an officer "did not violate policy and training etc" it can play out that just because it was "policy and training" doesn't always mean that will stand up in court. There are many cases of a law enforcement person violating Civil Rights according to "policy and training" and those "policiy and training" were ordered to be eliminated.

As expected, there are various terms and conditions that must be met to qualify for this to happen. It's not automatic.

I'm not a lawyer or law enforcement person so take my comments in a general sort of way. This is far above my paygrade.

However, if I were selected for jury duty I- know how I'd vote.

There are people in jail and without a job currently for following training and policy issues.

 

[Blue Heeler]

To me, this is the best summation …

The old man was wrong in poking the officer. The officer was wrong for slamming him to the ground as if the old man assaulted him with a shovel or something.

The LEO lost control. Coming from a LEO family, I have a lot of empathy. But he f***ed up and there are consequences.

 

[montesa]

Not that it matters legally but I wonder what the officer thinks about his actions. Does he wish he had handled it better? People do make mistakes.

 

[Matt Giroux]

Not that it matters legally but I wonder what the officer thinks about his actions. Does he wish he had handled it better? People do make mistakes.

Oh 100% if nothing else, just from the pot he has stirred up.

 

[Dale00]

So police training dictates that frail senior citizens with hearing or language impediments be slammed into the pavement instead of expecting officers to use common sense? Are they training Robocops or peacekeepers?

 

[CHenry]

And he thinks this action will help him in the Governors race he is exploring currently?
It’s likely to be the nail in the coffin that sinks his run if his opponent runs with it.
He just lost my vote.

He lost mine as well

 

[CHenry]

This is not over. If this is determined to be a Federal Civil Rights Violation then the US DOJ can strip the officer of his Qualified Immunity.

There can also be a Civil lawsuit brought on by the family.

Just because an officer "did not violate policy and training etc" it can play out that just because it was "policy and training" doesn't always mean that will stand up in court. There are many cases of a law enforcement person violating Civil Rights according to "policy and training" and those "policiy and training" were ordered to be eliminated.

As expected, there are various terms and conditions that must be met to qualify for this to happen. It's not automatic.

I'm not a lawyer or law enforcement person so take my comments in a general sort of way. This is far above my paygrade.

However, if I were selected for jury duty I- know how I'd vote.

That's pretty much what I was thinking also

 

[BillM]

He’s doing everything he can to set himself up for the governorship. This could backfire on him.
It gives me GREAT pause about him now.

Could backfire? How do we go about starting a recall campaign against him?

 

[Coug91]

Could backfire? How do we go about starting a recall campaign against him?

Change the state law on recall elections. Start with Walters, please.

 

[CHenry]

Not that it matters legally but I wonder what the officer thinks about his actions. Does he wish he had handled it better? People do make mistakes.

And mistakes have grave consequences. This officer is about to learn that and I pray he does and they make a hard example of him.
I'd never reach at or touch an officer but I'm 55 yo, 6'1" 230 lbs so im apparently an obvious threat to some men.
This old man obviously looks frail and lightweight , no threat at all.
This shouldn't have ever happened.