Old .30-30 shells.

[Pulp]

Going through MIL’s house, found some old REM-UMC .30-30 shells with hollow points flat nose jacketed bullets. They all had dented primers, so i pulled the bullets thinking they would be 125 grain. Turns out they were 164.5 (average of all four). I’m assuming they were sold as 165 grain.
Anyway, just wondering how old they may be. Never heard of a 165 grain HP in .30-30.
They had approx 31 grains of a stick powder, it would still burn.

 

[DRC458]

I don't recall ever hearing of any factory loaded 165 grain in .30-30.

 

[dennishoddy]

Not something I've ever heard of either. Suspect they may be someone's reloads? Do they measure .307 or .308?

 

[HFS]

There's a couple of pictures of something similar at this website for the International Arms Association Inc.

REM-UMC 30-30 Bullet (Mushroom Core-Lokt)

Hi, can anyone share information on the bullet loaded in this 30-30 Winchester by Rem-UMC? It appears to have an insert that is non-magnetic. Is it a factory loading? Thank you -Neil-

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I hadn't heard of a 165 grain bullet in the old 30-30 but I just looked at a book by Sam Fadala called WINCHESTER'S 30-30 MODEL 94 THE RIFLE AMERICA LOVES.
He writes that the whiz-bang high speed 30-30 offering didn't come out until a year later in 1895.
He says "The experts argue about it now, but the round was offered with either a 160-grain or 165- grain bullet."
The old stuff is fascinating and I learn something new all the time.

 

[Okie4570]

Way back when it was the 30WCF those were most commonly 160gr but I don't recall any true hollow points. There were some odd 165gr and 170gr and 175gr "mushrooming" and then the Silvertips.

 

[Pulp]

I googled history of the .30-30, one of the hits showed all the bullet weights ever offered, and 165 was on the list, but didn’t say hollow point. https://www.leverguns.com/articles/3030history.htm
The bullets are .307.

 

[swampratt]

I bought quite a few .307" bullets that on the box stated 30-30.

They shot very well from my .308 Savage 110 with BL-C(2) @45 gr
50 yards same hole.. was my tree rat load.
Most every 150gr bullet I used in .308 win. shot very accurate with that powder load.

 

[Pulp]

A SASS member figgered it out for me:

REM-UMC 30-30 Bullet (Mushroom Core-Lokt)

Hi, can anyone share information on the bullet loaded in this 30-30 Winchester by Rem-UMC? It appears to have an insert that is non-magnetic. Is it a factory loading? Thank you -Neil-

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