Saved a bit on my Natural gas

[swampratt]

Our house was built in 1974 and some outlets are on light switches.
I have the TV and stereo on those switches and when not in use the switch gets flipped off.

 

[HiredHand]

Back when the wife drove a Mercedes ML320, the oil change interval was set at 15,000 miles. I could never wait that long to change it so I would change it at about 5,000 - 6,000 miles. It required Mobil 1 and took 8 quarts.

We sold it with 190,000 miles and it was running great. The only bad thing about it was all the electrical gremlins. The door locks would shotgun and get out of sync. When we used the key fob, some doors would lock others would unlock.

I drive an older RX300 with just over 250,000 miles on it. I got it with about 150,000 on it. I switched it over to Amsoil full synthetic and change the oil and filter about once a year for the last 7 years. It’s been running fine.

 

[Lightsluvr]

Back in late summer there was a thread here about opting in to ONGs fixed rate plan. Some said they had saved money by doing so in the past while others said they didn't. I started keeping an eye on the market price for NG and what so called experts predicted would happen over the winter. I waited to the last day to decide and did opt in at $4.54 p/dth. Man am I glad I did. Even though my bills are higher than last year, I have still saved over $200 by doing this so far.

You're not really saving anything. The "fixed rate" plan is actually averaging your bill over twelve months. As the rates go up, so will your average bill. They'll get you now, get you later, or both. It doesn't impact big users, but if you're a resident used to a $58 a month average bill, the jump to $96 is significant. JME.

 

[Aries]

You're not really saving anything. The "fixed rate" plan is actually averaging your bill over twelve months. As the rates go up, so will your average bill. They'll get you now, get you later, or both. It doesn't impact big users, but if you're a resident used to a $58 a month average bill, the jump to $96 is significant. JME.

I think you're thinking of the Average Payment Plan which is a different thing. There is an option to lock in a rate, which could be good or bad depending if cost-of-gas adjustment is higher or lower than your locked-in rate.

BTW, anyone who wants to know details about how these charges are handled can of course call the utility companies and they can explain it... if you don't trust them, you can call the Oklahoma Corporation Commission and they'll also explain it. That's their job.

 

[kingfish]

I think you're thinking of the Average Payment Plan which is a different thing. There is an option to lock in a rate, which could be good or bad depending if cost-of-gas adjustment is higher or lower than your locked-in rate.

BTW, anyone who wants to know details about how these charges are handled can of course call the utility companies and they can explain it... if you don't trust them, you can call the Oklahoma Corporation Commission and they'll also explain it. That's their job.

Aries is correct. You are confusing the annual bill averaging with the optional fixed price of what you will be charged per dekatherm over the course of 1 year.

 

[Letfreedomring]

Hell I'm still trying to figure out which is better between the A and B plan. One charges a higher monthly fee, but is cheaper per unit of use and the other plan is a lower monthly fee but charges more per unit of use. I think last time I looked I was right on the line of being over the break over point of saving money by switching. If I'm not mistaken they automatically enroll you in the A plan, but the wrinkly jello between the ears doesn't work as good as it used to.

 

[kingfish]

You're not really saving anything. The "fixed rate" plan is actually averaging your bill over twelve months. As the rates go up, so will your average bill. They'll get you now, get you later, or both. It doesn't impact big users, but if you're a resident used to a $58 a month average bill, the jump to $96 is significant. JME.

I used 12.13 dekatherms in March. I paid $55 for that. Had I not been on the fixed rate plan I would have paid $97.

 

[SlugSlinger]

NG prices will settle between here and $30 per mmbtu. It’s not looking good for us, but it will make Europe happy.

 

[Rooster1971]

OK folks. There are plenty of videos online, and written stories online, of obama looking right in the camera and saying that out of necessity rates must rise.

This go green save the environment stuff, and cap and trade, which he talked about, is making all utilities and energy to go up up up.

Last I checked Obama isn’t the president. I’m pissed that ONG is turning the screws to us. We are like the 3rd largest producer of NG and their shortsightedness is costing us. Hopefully they aren’t the supplier for OG&E.

 

[Buzzdraw]

Hang on for a rough ride on natural gas prices. In the last 30 days they have gone up about $2 at the well head. This price has tripled in the last 12 months. Leading up to the 2009 crash natural gas was about $12; we are up to $7.30 now, with $2 of that increase in the last 30 days.

Natural gas is also heavily used for electrical generation in this country, more as coal fired plants are phased out. Natural gas is used to produce some fertilizers.