Senate Bill Demands the Military Lock Up American Citizens without due process of LAW

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This is not directly a gun issue, this is a freedom issue, this bill states that any of us can be locked up without due process and have our constitutional rights witheld for no reason other than we are suspected of doing something that our government doesn't like. There are no boundaries to this bill as it now stands. Please contact our Senators and tell them NO
I wish one of the moderators would put this in the breaking news section of this. The bill comes before the senate early next week. No time to waste. This overules all of the rule of law and The Posse Comitatus Act.

S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window

Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window

Please talk this up, this is the most dangerous bill in the history of our nation, all of our rights could be down the drain with this bill

Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.

The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”
 

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ACLU is all over it.

<sarcasm>I guess that means it would be ethically wrong for most members of this forum to oppose it.</sarcasm>

That said, wouldn't being locked up be preferable to being killed under the provisions of the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force?
 

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I'm not seeing anything in this summary of the bill about the violation of civil rights that is being discussed in this thread. Are they being stealthy?

S. 1867: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012

11/15/2011--Introduced.
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 - Authorizes appropriations for the Department of Defense (DOD) for FY2012. Authorizes appropriations to DOD for: (1) procurement, including aircraft, missiles, weapons and tracked combat vehicles, ammunition, shipbuilding and conversion, and other procurement; (2) research, development, test, and evaluation; (3) operation and maintenance; (4) active and reserve military personnel; (5) Working Capital Funds; (6) the National Defense Sealift Fund; (7) the Defense Health Program; (8) chemical agents and munitions destruction; (9) drug interdiction and counter-drug activities; (10) the Defense Inspector General; (11) the Armed Forces Retirement Home; (12) overseas contingency operations; (13) the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Security Investment Program; (14) Guard and reserve forces facilities; (15) base closure and realignment activities; and (16) the Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board. Sets forth provisions or requirements concerning: (1) military personnel policy, including education and training, military justice, and sexual assault prevention and response; (2) military pay and allowances; (3) military health care; (4) acquisition policy and management, including major defense acquisition programs; (5) DOD organization and management, including space, intelligence, and cybersecurity matters; (6) financial matters, including counter-drug activities and detainee matters; (7) civilian personnel matters; (8) matters relating to foreign nations, including assistance and training; (9) cooperative threat reduction; and (10) matters relating to military construction and military family housing. Revises and adds new offenses under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) relating to rape, sexual assault, and other sexual misconduct. Provides procedures for the judicial review of decisions concerning the correction of military personnel records. Consolidates and revises DOD travel and transportation authorities. Establishes: (1) the Joint Urgent Operational Needs Fund, and (2) the Global Security Contingency Fund. Requires a DOD plan to acquire capabilities to detect previously unknown cyber attacks. Military Construction Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 - Authorizes appropriations for FY2012 for military construction for the Armed Forces and defense agencies. Authorizes appropriations to the Department of Energy (DOE) for DOE national security programs. Authorizes the obligation and expenditure of amounts specified in funding tables for a DOD project, program, or activity authorized under this Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1867&tab=summary
 

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I'm not seeing anything in this summary of the bill about the violation of civil rights that is being discussed in this thread. Are they being stealthy?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1867&tab=summary

That's just a short summary of the bill.
Here is the complete bill. Jump to page 359

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1253rs/pdf/BILLS-112s1253rs.pdf

I'm no lawyer but I believe that both the left and the right are alarmed by the following clause:

CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATION ON APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES PERSONS.—The authority to
detain a person under this section does not extend to the
detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United
States on the basis of conduct taking place within the
United States
except to the extent permitted by the Con
stitution of the United States.

So, if a US citizen travels to Canada or Europe and the .gov determines they meet the other criteria listed in those sections, they can detain indefinitely said U.S. Citizen.
 

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