Shooting at H&H

[mike sweeney]

You tell me. You're saying it doesn't take guts. If so you have no idea what your talking about.

First off let me say thank you for your service! But trust me i know what im talking about as far a suicide is concerned. God bless us all and i hope this man found what he was looking for!

Ive got enough enemies and im not trying to make any more here its just Ive been in situations where i didnt know if ild live through them and wasnt thinking about myself but those that would have to deal with my death.

God bless

 

[dieseltech09]

My prayers go out to the family. I am dealing with the struggle of losing someone to suicide my self. We just buried my wife's grandfather Friday morning. He was 90 years old and he was in alot of pain. For what ever reason he decided he was done fighting it and shot himself. My wife is completely destroyed over it and its going to be a very long journey before she's back to normal if she ever can.

 

[SoonerBorn]

All perceptions aside, deciding how, when and where you're going to die is the most sovereign act an individual can do. It's strange how it works out that way....

 

[Shadowrider]

My prayers go out to the family. I am dealing with the struggle of losing someone to suicide my self. We just buried my wife's grandfather Friday morning. He was 90 years old and he was in alot of pain. For what ever reason he decided he was done fighting it and shot himself. My wife is completely destroyed over it and its going to be a very long journey before she's back to normal if she ever can.

My stepmom's dad did the same thing a few years ago. His wife predeceased him, he was having a bunch of kidney problems and he just decided he was too tired to go on and ended it. He was about 90 too. I think it's far more common than most of us think.

 

[Danny Tanner]

My cousin, not even 10 years older than me, spent much of his childhood under the care of my parents. I was the oldest of 3 boys, so he was as close to a big brother as I was ever going to get. Even when my parents no longer had custody, he spent quite a bit of his time at our house, as my parents always made sure he was welcome. Much of my personality was influenced by him, as was my brothers and his nephew. He was one of the biggest role models the four of us had.

He suffered from depression for too many years. Took countless medicines, spoke with several doctors. He had everything a man could want to have -- a secure, well-paying job, no debt, a beautiful wife, happy, beautiful kids, a nice home, great friends and even better family. He did everything he enjoyed doing -- hunting, fishing, riding his motorcycle. On paper, he had absolutely nothing to be depressed about, but that's where the ignorance to depression kicks in. Despite having a picture picture life, he was in pain and suffered for many years, even though he had a strong support system and all the professional help that was offered.

A little over two years ago, he went to Draper Lake and put a shotgun in his mouth. Depression is a serious illness and one that doctors are still struggling to combat. This isn't like scraping your knee where you can tell someone to, as someone above put it, "get over your problems", brush off the dirt and get back into the game of life. While I'm not personally offended, it's offensive that some label these people cowards. They've hurt for far too long. In my cousin's case, he tried for over a decade to get help, yet he hurt the entire time. Can you imagine being consumed by something so dark every single day of your life? I couldn't begin to. I don't believe my cousin is a coward as he fought away the pain every single day, yet it was a fight he couldn't win.

It hurt then and it still hurts now to think about what happened, but the only solace my family can harvest from this situation is knowing that he's no longer putting himself in pain just so we have comfort in his existence. For us to ask him for even one more day would be selfish on our part.

To the friends and family of the individual today at H&H, I know exactly what they're going through. It hurts, and I hope the individual exhausted all other options before deciding that this is the best way to handle it. I hope they find peace in the fact that he is no longer suffering, but it's going to be a tough hill for them to climb. I wish them them, and everyone else in this situation, the best.

 

[uncle money bags]

Lets not get this disussion started, and drop it here for the sake of the families.

I agree, and retract my previous statement with respect to the coward part.

It is one thing to be a coward in facing your demons and quite another to have faced them and lost.

 

[AKguy1985]

Sad deal. The same thing has happened at tulsa firearms 3 or 4 times now.

 

[68mustang]

Just a thought. Do you think asking the question, "have you ever had thoughts of suicide?" before renting the gun would help stop this? I mean actually having to face someone and lie right before you plan to do the act would be pretty hard I would think.

 

[Quick_Draw_McGraw]

Perhaps we all can agree to pity the road that would take anyone poor soul to such dark place and leave it at that.

 

[Brandi]

We all have the balls to live through our problems. It is sad whenever anyone does this. I have a friend that has lost both of her sons to suicide. I can't even imagine how she feels. I can't ask her either. Both of her sons hung themselves.

Seriously? "We all have the balls to live through our problems"??? And yet you mention your friend who lost both her sons to suicide. So they were sure they could get past their issues but took their lives anyway? Does that even make sense to you? The ONLY reason you guys say this kind of utter garbage is because you've never been where they were. Knowing their parent, or friend or even being their best friend in the world you do NOT know where they are emotionally. Making statements like that, while having nothing but incidental information is insulting and ignorant. If, as you say, everybody has the ability to just push through the pain why do they do it? How many soldiers have we lost from taking their lives? Surely these guys, including Special Forces troops, were tough enough on your "balls" scale to just live through it? These men and women I guess, in your eyes, weren't as tough as you or they'd be posting on here about how they had the balls to live through it. I'm going to refrain from saying what I really want to say but use your imagination. I hope you never have to see someone you love go through the mental hell these people or anyone who's taken their life have gone through to stop the hurt.