We shot at 3-5-7 yds. 2 people at a time. 2 mags each. 10 shots each station up and back. 10 people max in each class. Instructor was thorough and instructive before, during and after the range work. It was a pleasure and I enjoyed it.
When I took my at H&H we did mags loaded with 5 rounds each with a total of 50 rounds fired. All fired at 5 yards I believe. We just had to demonstrate safe weapon handling and we passed.
Our instructor said he didn't even care if we hit the target. Just don't shoot the ceiling or try and be cute and shoot a smiley face or something. I think a lady had a malfunction or two and the instructor stopped us and cleared it for her.
When I took mine, we shot 5 rounds and reload 10 times to complete our 50 rounds. 16 people in the class. 3!!!!!!!!! had been to gun show the previous saturday and bought their firearm. 2 were still in the box and no idea how to drop the mag to load. We had 1 blessed gentlman was 86 yrs young shows up with a nice 3" S&W Model 19of his 50 rounds, he hit his target 12. He hit A target 38 times. I had 2 people between he and I. My target had 54 holes in it. 4 were .38 and 50 were .45. He passed, thankfully the other 3 didn't.
The instructor said 27 times "DO NOT point a gun at me or any other person" Guess, which 3 pointed at him?
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Technically, range rules for the SDA course state (and this is on the test they give you that you must make a 70%), if you experience a malfunction, raise your off hand, weapon pointed down range and the RO/instructor will clear it for you. I dont agree with this because the instructor is checking your familiarity with firearms. The actual shooting portion according to CLEET consist of loading 5 rounds, and on command firing 5 rounds down range and into the target, repeating two more times for a total of 15 at 3 yards. Repeat at the 5 yard line, no time limit for either. the additional 20 rounds are two 5 round strings at 3 and 5 yards, 10 sec time limit at the 3 yard, 15 at the five yard. However, I imagine most just look for safe gun handling.
This wasn't the case in our class. One Hmong fellow made sure to muzzle sweep everyone else at least 3-4 times. I almost lost it when he looked down the barrel of the loaner Ruger Mark II when it wouldn't fire (it was on safety). He and everyone else passed, no lie. I was severely disappointed in the class.
According to the CLEET SDA handbook (in my hand) the SDA requirement is 2 ten-second limit five-shot strings at 3 yards, and 2 fifteen-second limit five-shot strings at five yards.
The targets are not scored.
Violation of ANY of the rules (covered in graded safety section) will result in the violator's removal from the firing line or expulsion from the range. (pg 26 of CLEET lesson plan).
I follow the CLEET lesson plan, and am disappointed to hear that others don't.
The targets are not scored.
Violation of ANY of the rules (covered in graded safety section) will result in the violator's removal from the firing line or expulsion from the range. (pg 26 of CLEET lesson plan).
I follow the CLEET lesson plan, and am disappointed to hear that others don't.
I was pretty disappointed in the quality of our class. The firing line was untimed, 5 rounds at a time, at 21 ft. The 3 that "failed", he basically just told them "they would need to sign up for his basics class, immediately after our class, $65 each, and then they would pass." Don't know if any of the 3 signed up.
I took my class at 2A...we shot at 3, 5, and 7 yards 5 rounds at a time...we did do some rapid fire with the last round of shots being 5 shots in 5 seconds.
There was no requirement to even hit the paper...just demonstrate safety. We shot in 2 goups of 5 or 6 people...I did not notice any safety issues in my group. I was very happy with my class and with my instructor.
There was no requirement to even hit the paper...just demonstrate safety. We shot in 2 goups of 5 or 6 people...I did not notice any safety issues in my group. I was very happy with my class and with my instructor.
This. But it was goats. LOL
