These days short of a violent crime, it's damned tough to get a person adjudicated mentally incompetent.
The number of children killed in the next school shooting may be much higher
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These days short of a violent crime, it's damned tough to get a person adjudicated mentally incompetent.
Exactly my point. The question is what can the shrink do with this info? If the shrink believes the person to be sincere about killing people, why would she not tell some body?
You and I are having the conversation and several people are reading it.
I think you are under the misconception that I have suggested that our agreement in not letting "mental" persons own a gun is some sort of panacea or would have some huge impact on stopping people who should not possess a gun from getting one. I certainly dont believe it is. Further, it wont stop anybody from stealing a gun to use in another crime. I stick by my definition of "mental" for this conversation because that is the legally accepted threshold for denying some body their right to own a firearm.
Aren't all of you assuming that the guns will be purchased legally? The laws don't mean crap to these people, obviously. It doesn't matter if they bypass the system!
The last I knew if someone swore out an affidavit stating a person had acted or made statements of a suicidal or homicidal nature they could be put on a 72hr. hold and possibly be adjudicated depending on the findings over the hold period.
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Aren't all of you assuming that the guns will be purchased legally? The laws don't mean crap to these people, obviously. It doesn't matter if they bypass the system!
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Further, it wont stop anybody from stealing a gun to use in another crime.
Those are true statements because criminals and true "crazies" don't care about laws.
Aren't all of you assuming that the guns will be purchased legally? The laws don't mean crap to these people, obviously. It doesn't matter if they bypass the system!
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Further, it wont stop anybody from stealing a gun to use in another crime.
Those are true statements because criminals and true "crazies" don't care about laws.
You guys are making me proud to be discussing this issue. It takes balls to discuss this on a very pro gun forum. Mainly because after you flesh the arguments out, you will see that some people must, temporarily or permanatly lose the right to purchase firearms. Much like felons.
Please continue and thanks.
Please continue and thanks.
I don't think it should be permanent.
How so? Are there persons here who think insane people without a felony conviction should possess firearms?
I have a friend who worked as a stall psychologist at Griffin in Norman. I would respectfully disagree that it should not be permanent in some cases.
My thinking of a permanant ban is that some peoples mental status wont ever change, alzhiemers for example. There are other conditions as well.
Anytime a conversation revolves around a touchy subject of reducing gun rights or restricting ownership you risk being labled as something youre not. You could lose freinds or potential freinds by voicing a different opinion or unpopular solution. And lastly some people have drawn a line and have the mentality of either with us or against us. You become the enemy.
So yes it takes balls.
Anytime a conversation revolves around a touchy subject of reducing gun rights or restricting ownership you risk being labled as something youre not. You could lose freinds or potential freinds by voicing a different opinion or unpopular solution. And lastly some people have drawn a line and have the mentality of either with us or against us. You become the enemy.
So yes it takes balls.
