Tyranny for the good of its victims - C.S. Lewis

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Just thought I'd throw this in here.

We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
 

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What i "think" we have going on here is a Libertarian person quoting a Liberal person (who most likely had it out for religion

Ok, stop right there for a minute. Are you saying C.S. LEWIS "most likely had it out for religion" and was a liberal???

Put me down with mons meg, sh00ter - even if you just use WikiPedia on C.S. Lewis, you need to research before your "thinker" takes you places you don't understand.

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Put me down with mons meg, sh00ter - even if you just use WikiPedia on C.S. Lewis, you need to research before your "thinker" takes you places you don't understand.

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Not to mention the fact that if you read this quote in context (From God in the Dock essays) and balanced against the rest of Lewis' literature you'll come away with a much better understand of the points he was making here.
 

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I made my judgment based on how I understood the quote, and also covered my azz by saying "think" to leave room for error. But CS Lewis was an atheist and perhaps this quote came before his conversion?

This is not quite true. Lewis went through many philosophical and religious schools of thought through his life-long search for the truth. He did spend a period of his life claiming to be an atheist of sorts, but never really conceded his belief in the existence of diety -therefore he redefined the term "atheist" to suit his particular questions. He eventually came full circle back to where he started out in his theological beliefs, and his writings reflect this quest. This is why, as with any human writer, it is important to balance individual quotes, books, thoughts, etc against the backdrop of his life and the entirety of his body of work.
 

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This is not quite true. Lewis went through many philosophical and religious schools of thought through his life-long search for the truth. He did spend a period of his life claiming to be an atheist of sorts, but never really conceded his belief in the existence of diety -therefore he redefined the term "atheist" to suit his particular questions. He eventually came full circle back to where he started out in his theological beliefs, and his writings reflect this quest. This is why, as with any human writer, it is important to balance individual quotes, books, thoughts, etc against the backdrop of his life and the entirety of his body of work.

Well stated...it was his honest search that lends depth to his writings, IMO.
 

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The quote is from a collection of his essays God In The Dock. It was written after his conversion to Christianity. Taken as a whole, it is a good argument FOR Christianity.
Lewis evolved from an atheist to occultist to theist to Christian. He described his atheistic days like being an angry child mad about something and holding it against Christianity. That seems to fit most atheists I know. If you can get them to dig into their past and admit it, there is usually an incident that happened to them for which they blame all religion, particularly Christianity if American. Like a child incapable of logic, they aren't able to distinguish the event from the religion.
 

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The quote is from a collection of his essays God In The Dock. It was written after his conversion to Christianity. Taken as a whole, it is a good argument FOR Christianity.
Lewis evolved from an atheist to occultist to theist to Christian. He described his atheistic days like being an angry child mad about something and holding it against Christianity. That seems to fit most atheists I know. If you can get them to dig into their past and admit it, there is usually an incident that happened to them for which they blame all religion, particularly Christianity if American. Like a child incapable of logic, they aren't able to distinguish the event from the religion.
 

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