U.S. Supreme Court justices hear Hobby Lobby arguments

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WASHINGTON — U.S. Supreme Court justices appeared sharply divided Tuesday over whether Hobby Lobby and other family-owned businesses should have to pay for health insurance coverage that includes contraceptive methods objectionable to the owners.

Some of the court’s conservatives said the government was effectively requiring Hobby Lobby to pay for abortions, since the company’s owners — David Green and his family, of Oklahoma City — believe that’s the effect that four of the contraceptives can have.

The three female justices, who constitute the majority of the court’s liberal wing, aggressively pushed the point that a victory for Hobby Lobby — a nationwide chain of arts-and-crafts stores — would mean for-profit companies could raise religious objections to vaccinations, blood transfusions and other medical procedures.

A majority of the nine justices appeared to accept the proposition that for-profit companies could bring a claim under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

That is a threshold question in the case, and the government’s attorney, Solicitor General Donald Verrelli Jr., argued that the Supreme Court has never given a for-profit company a religious exemption from a federal law.

Attorney Paul Clement, a former solicitor general who argued Tuesday for Hobby Lobby and the two other companies involved in the case, said Congress intended to protect the religious beliefs of all — including for-profit corporations — when it passed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in 1993.

Oral arguments are not always a reliable barometer of how the court may ultimately rule because justices try to test the positions of both sides. However, on Tuesday, the court’s liberal and conservative wings telegraphed major differences in how they were approaching the issues, suggesting that the decision, expected before the court’s term ends in June, could come on a close vote.

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Mercy Hospital does not provide any type of contraceptive insurance for their employees, also based on religious reasons. I wonder how the final ruling will affect Mercy, if at all.
 

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The Affordable Care Act differentiates between companies for compliance based on size, today they arbitrarily break at 50 employees. It would be a simple legislative vote or Executive Fiat to arbitrarily choose any other number, including 1. Thereby giving the government the ability to dictate religious practices to individuals. Hopefully the Supreme Court will think this through this time.
 
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So if they don't rule in favor of HL, they can drop the coverage altogether and pay the fine. And they would also give that money to their employees to purchase their own coverage. So it's a double whammy on the expense of HL. So...just how is this not government sponsored religious discrimination?


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So if they don't rule in favor of HL, they can drop the coverage altogether and pay the fine. And they would also give that money to their employees to purchase their own coverage. So it's a double whammy on the expense of HL. So...just how is this not government sponsored religious discrimination?


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Because they're applying the law equally across all religions and exempting none.
 
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Because they're applying the law equally across all religions and exempting none.

Maybe discrimination is the wrong word.

What we will have is "you will be punished financially for your beliefs, but that's okay you can still have them. Just as long as you pay". I'm thinking that this is just unconstitutional as hell. :anyone:
 

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I still go back to the belief that if one wants to have sex, then one should pay for one's own method of contraception. To go otherwise, would there then be the possibility of someone in government deciding to mandate what method one used. Especially if it were to get to where we had single payer and the government had full discretionary judgement.
 

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