Unfreaking real!!!!!!!! 3 kids suspended for tackling armed gunman on a school bus...

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This just can't be true... I can't even imagine how a gun would get on the bus.
There has to be signs. Everyone knows that if there is a sign, you have to obey it. It's the law you know and nobody would break the law.
 

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Today my son's PRE-K teacher called me and bitched to me about my son pointing his finger at other students and saying "pow, pow" while playing on the playground. I could not believe my ears

I think I'd have had some smartass answer... what has this country come to?
 

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Damage control should be "It's just like suspending an officer involved in a shooting."

Of course it isn't, but if I were the school administrator who is at the top of the decision chain, that'd be my story and I'd stick to it.

There may be more to this than meets the eye right now. It's an explosive story. I'd like to know more before I completely explode, though that's more fun.
 

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Wow, assuming this is the whole story, that's shameful. It sounds like the school administrators need to be replaced instead of suspending a student for being a hero. Our school system needs less politicians and more teachers in charge. It's a damn shame school board positions are seen as stepping stones for a budding political career instead of a group of parents and teachers who care about the students.

Sadly, as a former school board member, I have to disagree a bit with this. There have been many instances where the teachers can be more of a problem than the administration. I've seen teachers get away with things that can't be corrected because the only "witness" was a student. On the other hand, if the members of the administration goof up, they are immediately subject to review by the school board with a lot fewer "rules" to go by in their discipline of the administrator.

An administrator can be terminated at the end of their contract (or at least they used to be), but to fire a tenured teacher takes a lot of documentation and reviews. Many times, as long as the teacher "improves" according to an improvement plan, they still can't be fired.

Also, the administration has to abide by the decisions made by the school board with regards to the discipline of students. With so many districts adopting "zero tolerance" rules, there is little that they can do.

Now, after saying all of that, I agree that someone, starting with the school board, needs to get an earful from the parents and citizens of the community.
 
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Sadly, as a former school board member, I have to disagree a bit with this. There have been many instances where the teachers can be more of a problem than the administration. I've seen teachers get away with things that can't be corrected because the only "witness" was a student. On the other hand, if the members of the administration goof up, they are immediately subject to review by the school board with a lot fewer "rules" to go by in their discipline of the administrator.

An administrator can be terminated at the end of their contract (or at least they used to be), but to fire a tenured teacher takes a lot of documentation and reviews. Many times, as long as the teacher "improves" according to an improvement plan, they still can't be fired.

Also, the administration has to abide by the decisions made by the school board with regards to the discipline of students. With so many districts adopting "zero tolerance" rules, there is little that they can do.

Now, after saying all of that, I agree that someone, starting with the school board, needs to get an earful from the parents and citizens of the community.

THIS is why we need to get rid of the unions that allow this kind of incompetence. Back in OR there was a teacher who recently got put on paid leave after being caught in a hotel room with his middle school student, all because you can't fire somebody with tenure. The things that union employees can get away with is absolutely ridiculous and would NEVER fly in the private sector.
 

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Today my son's PRE-K teacher called me and bitched to me about my son pointing his finger at other students and saying "pow, pow" while playing on the playground. I could not believe my ears

HE WHAT? Pointed and said Pow Pow. I'll whip his ass. It should have brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp.
 

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Damage control should be "It's just like suspending an officer involved in a shooting."

Of course it isn't, but if I were the school administrator who is at the top of the decision chain, that'd be my story and I'd stick to it.

There may be more to this than meets the eye right now. It's an explosive story. I'd like to know more before I completely explode, though that's more fun.

+1... too many are jumping to conclusions based on a core belief (2A) too quickly defending a half truth.

Would you, a parent, send your "hero thrust upon" child back to school the next day? Or would you give said child a day, or three to renormalize? To sweat out that adrenaline rush? Seriously???

Kids (25 and under) can't process stressful post-situational endorphin highs/lows. That's when the "what if" happens. That encroaching realization of ones own mortality. Kids can't much less decide what they want for lunch, far be it to send em back after a seriously stressful/post-stressful event like this.

Notice it is "emergency suspension"... Not "disciplinary suspension"... I would bet the well being, and mental health of these three kids is more at heart in the district rather than some zero tolerance quasi kid criminality charge.
 

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Today my son's PRE-K teacher called me and bitched to me about my son pointing his finger at other students and saying "pow, pow" while playing on the playground. I could not believe my ears

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